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Trumpist Curses at KKK members (context i found on original video)

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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c Sep 22 '22

That second line is better than the first one imo. Many aesthetically liberal cities and towns are racist as hell

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u/throwthataway2012 Sep 22 '22

Man I thought this was common knowledge? Progressive, upper-middleclass, majority white towns love spouting their woke mindset. As long as the topics stay WAYYYY over there across the train tracks

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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c Sep 22 '22

It's very easy to be racist when you're convinced you can't possibly be a racist because you clear the extremely low bar of voting for Democrats

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u/c-dy Sep 22 '22

You still aren't a progressive if you're racist. In fact, anything going in that direction should be a very remote issue for a progressive.

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u/ChocolateMorsels Sep 22 '22

Yeah lol. A lot of GOP vs Dem politics boils down to the GOP being out and open about being an a-hole while Dems are in complete denial about themselves being a-holes.

Just my observation, probably gonna ruffle some feathers

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u/Sir_Green_Britches Sep 22 '22

This is the intersection of performative politics and "NIMBY".

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u/hysterical_landmark Sep 22 '22

You can feel the projection.

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u/a_dry_banana Sep 22 '22

Try being a poc in a place like Boston. Finna get the cops up your ass for “looking suspicious”

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u/ChrisPnCrunchy Sep 22 '22

Boston is literally famous for its racism, has been for at least half a century.

Nobody thinks Boston is some bastion of liberal or progressive thought.

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u/a_dry_banana Sep 22 '22

Massachusetts as a whole is considered by many as the most progressive state in the US same with most of the New England states like Rhode Island.

However New England white progressivism is literally the picture definition of what minorities think of when talking about the “white liberal” who will have a blm poster on their yard but calls the cops when they see a poc in their neighborhood.

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u/tuckastheruckas Sep 22 '22

really? I'd think California, Oregon and Washington would be anyones first though of progressive states.

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u/a_dry_banana Sep 22 '22

Anyone in California would disagree to think California is progressive. It’s democratic but once you talk about actual progressive beliefs and it’s NIMBY-stan. And the pnw has progressive cities but I wouldn’t consider them progressive at the state level.

On the other hand New England is just “progressive” basically everywhere. I mean our most progressive senators are from there.

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u/pataconconqueso Sep 23 '22

I was agreeing with you until this comment. Ive lived in the south, Europe, am an immigrant from latin america and the safest ive ever felt has been in California. I live in SF and haven’t experienced scary racism and only 3 homophobic encounters in 6 years. Even with the crime in the city, it has been way safer for me than anywhere else in the world ive lived in.

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u/Punchee Sep 22 '22

What?

Boston is literally the ivoriest of the ivory towers of the liberal elite that conservatives hate the most.

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u/Crabby-GenXer Sep 22 '22

Um, yeah, we do.

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u/CheesingmyBrainsOut Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

Massachusetts is known to be the most liberal, actually, second to DC. The takeaway is that you're not eliminating systemic racism in a single generation, especially when federal policy doesn't align with those goals. Things like unviesity tuition, crappy public schools, low minimum wage, lack of social safety net, for-profit healthcare system, are all barriers.

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u/tomdarch Sep 22 '22

Cops aren't the upper middle class, well-educated progressive people in the city.

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u/a_dry_banana Sep 22 '22

True, however it’s the big city progressive who calls them.

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u/CheesingmyBrainsOut Sep 22 '22

Progressive, upper-middleclass, majority white towns love spouting their woke mindset.

This isn't progressive though. This is liberal at best, most likely left of center. I call it sexy liberalism, and it's rampant in San Francisco. It's writing black lives matter on the streets and renaming schools while ignoring much more pertinent issues like housing costs.

Progressivism is rezoning single family, mainly white, communities to multi family, in order to increase housing and decrease housing costs. It's putting more city dollars to public school funding. It's increasing the minimum wage. It's increased taxation of the rich to prop up these programs. As in, progressivism is change that most likely will personally affect you for the betterment of others.

It's an important distinction because it's an acknowledgement that there's a section of the left that supports actual change, and actually supports eliminating systemic racism. But it shouldn't be conflated with the usually rich, New Democrat, section of the left, which is thankfully dying off.

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u/redditaccount300000 Sep 22 '22

I know it’s NIMBY but If I just bought a million dollar house, I wouldn’t want anything that decreases my property value to happen. How many people are willing to lose a sizable chunk of money to support the right cause? Self sacrifice is hard man.

I’m pro union, universal health care, increased min wage, student loan forgiveness, etc but itd be hard for me to vote for something that would decrease the value of an asset by $10k-100+k. If rezoning and building apartments in a single family neighborhood didn’t mean my house losing value, I’m sure more people would be inclined.

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u/CheesingmyBrainsOut Sep 22 '22

I know it’s NIMBY but If I just bought a million dollar house, I wouldn’t want anything that decreases my property value to happen.

Yeah, of course, but maybe this encourages using households as a household rather than an asset.

How many people are willing to lose a sizable chunk of money to support the right cause? Self sacrifice is hard man.

Yeah, it's hard. That's why I was differentiating the two. Because this is what actual progressivism looks like. It's knowing that you may have to lose some of your assets value for the sake of the community and longevity and equality of society.

Speaking to San Francisco, most of these people would be dual tech incomes, likely making $500k+/yr. I fall into that category and I'm willing to vote to lose my asset'e value, since I know the struggles of growing up within a household that was living paycheck to paycheck due to rising rental costs. And I would not want my kids to experience the same.

So if the question is will I be the generation to make a small little sacrifice, but still live an incredibly privileged life, then the answer is hell yes I will. Like, we're talking about potentially a slight hit on my net worth. And realistically this wouldn't happen overnight.

If rezoning and building apartments in a single family neighborhood didn’t mean my house losing value, I’m sure more people would be inclined.

You have to pull off the bandaid at some point. Start with boomers dying off, get rid of prop 13. Rezone and remove red tape. Enable housing construction that gets closer to matching demand.

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u/redditaccount300000 Sep 22 '22

I don’t know what housing is like in SF other than it’s fucking expensive. And I don’t know how long it would take to recoup a 10% 20% 30% etc loss in home value. Do you think it’s easier for you to take that stance and loss in asset value cause as a 1-4%er you can possibly recoup the lost value in a relatively short time?

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u/CheesingmyBrainsOut Sep 22 '22

For sure, but I was confining it to communities that are largely affected by disparities in supply and demand, which are usually cities where the top 1% own homes (San Francisco, NYC, Boston), or have bought homes recently. For people who bought in the 90's, even a 30-40% drop in asset value and they're still way in the green.

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u/tuckastheruckas Sep 22 '22

I 100% disagree with the move as I think it is inhumane to use people as a political point, but desantis sending the migrants to Martha's Vineyard and the ensuing shit show that followed kinda highlights this.

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u/pataconconqueso Sep 23 '22

White liberals love their microsgressions, far righters love their macrogressions. Having lived in both environments, id still choose the path where i wont be physically attacked.

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u/makingthisfor1reason Sep 23 '22

It is. It's just a pretend secret on Reddit to influence young kids

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u/tomdarch Sep 22 '22

As a big-city, progressive, etc., etc. white guy, no that is very much false.

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u/Tcannon18 Sep 23 '22

It’s really not lol. Hell it’s even all over social media. You don’t need to look hard to find it.

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u/The-Fox-Says Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

And guess who those racists in those cities are more likely to vote for? It’s not like everyone in a city thinks and votes the same. Or that every blue city votes 100% blue

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u/Matreksboi Sep 22 '22

Yup I'm progressive as hell but some liberals and leftists are racist without realizing it and deflect responsibility for being a POC

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u/Devadander Sep 22 '22

Boston says hi

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

Boston, NYC, Philly, Chicago, Cleveland, LA…

The list can go on and on

Everybody wants to love thy neighbor online but still racist as hell deep down on a personal level

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 22 '22

Only because trump supporters also live in liberal cities.

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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c Sep 22 '22

Nope! lots of party-line Dem voters throw all their progressive values in the garbage the second someone wants to build affordable housing in their neighborhood!

Very silly to pretend the only racist people in a deeply racist country are Trump-supporting republicans

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u/melechkibitzer Sep 22 '22

I lean to the left but I honestly believe hiring people of color for the sake of diversity in the workplace is a racist action. You’re literally discriminating based on skin color. But that’s none of my business. Kermit drinking tea meme

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ Sep 22 '22

The argument is that the only way to make up for past injustices is to balance them out in the present.

I get why people don't like affirmative action as a practice or reparations out of principle, but the only other alternative I see is "welp, them's the breaks."

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 22 '22

Ahh, got it. You are projecting.

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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c Sep 22 '22

Found the guy who has one of those "in this house we believe in science" signs in his front yard and writes every city council member about how new affordable housing would "ruin my neighborhood's character"

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 22 '22

Why do you keep projecting your own insecurities onto me?

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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c Sep 22 '22

If you don't want to lose more arguments the way you lost this one you should try coming up with a less stupid default response, this "I know you are but what am I" routine of yours sucks

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 22 '22

Ah yes, the old 'I say you lost, so you lost' clause. This isn't the playground, kid. If you want people to say less stupid stuff to you, then stop saying stupid things out loud.

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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c Sep 22 '22

Why do you keep projecting your own insecurities onto me?

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 23 '22

lmao - you can't even copy people correctly. Pathetic.

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u/DavidOrtizUsedPEDs Sep 22 '22

I love how your name is "Reddit sucks" then you go on to truly embody the worst of Reddit.

As a rule, is the right (more specifically Trump supporters) more often racist than the left? Yes, absolutely.

But no, liberals/democrats are very often racists as well, this is not "both sides" as one side is clearly worse. But to pretend that something like racism is as simple as "Only trump supporters are racist!" is literally just ignoring how widespread and significant of an issue it is.

Lots of suburban dems who gladly voted for Biden/have a timeline filled with anti-Trump shit are absolutely racist as well.

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 22 '22

Maybe your friends say racist shit, but my liberal and progressive friends do not. But then, you likely don't know any actual democrats.

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u/DavidOrtizUsedPEDs Sep 22 '22

You're right, living in the suburbs in NYC my entire life I have never met any Democrats. Ignoring that that's the demographic that is the literal definition of Democrat.

And no, they may not say overtly racist shit. But mention bringing affordable housing to their neighborhood and watch them squirm lmao.

You're just a fool and believing that racism isn't widespread and instead contained to a specific group.

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 23 '22

Why are you lying to yourself about having talked to people around you about affordable housing?

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u/jack_spankin Sep 22 '22

Bullshit. You find liberal enclaves all over and as soon as the poors or poc move in they move away, start private schools or find some way to keep them out.

The use all the tools available in zoning, school policy, etc.

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u/redditsucks987432 Sep 22 '22

Endless projection from you clowns.

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u/tagrav Sep 22 '22

Mitch McConnell's house is in a "liberal city", in the eclectic "Liberal" area.

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u/purple_lassy Sep 22 '22

I can’t say I agree with that. I live in a large left city, my daughters go to one of the most diverse elementary schools in the nation, diversity is a part of life and most seem unbothered by it.

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u/emper0rfabulous Sep 22 '22

Diversity ≠ absence of racism

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u/purple_lassy Sep 22 '22

No kidding. But you don’t see kids of all races and religions playing nice. Parents become friends. Communities grow.

I graduated with 100% white kids and cannot tell you the racist comments, jokes, grandparents I was warned about. I know what I have seen and heard for 40 years.

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u/makingthisfor1reason Sep 23 '22

Welcome to middle school mate

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u/Just2GetBy Sep 22 '22

I've lived in NYC all my life. If you think Democrats can't be racist, then you're sadly wrong. I'm saying this as a minority who has voted for only Democrats.

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u/purple_lassy Sep 22 '22

Anybody can be racist. Jump on online gaming.

But who do I see being racist assholes all of the time?? Guys like this.

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u/makingthisfor1reason Sep 23 '22

Gotta open your eyes up more

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u/aquintana Sep 23 '22

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. I’m in San Antonio, a historically blue city. I know that there are racists here too; but there’s more minorities than racists so the racists usually stfu and hide in plain daylight. I grew up in a rural area outside of the city the racists there were pretty open with their bigotry. It was bad enough that when I went off to college, even though I went to study in a “conservative college town,” the racists weren’t as obvious.