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Trumpist Curses at KKK members (context i found on original video)

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u/tylerPA007 Sep 22 '22

Homie probably just needs a nice, home-cooked meal from someone he wasn’t expecting to finally pull him over to the left.

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u/n0tAgOat Sep 22 '22

Hahaha, maybe.

As a registered democrat, I'll be the first to admit leftists are some of the most annoying, misinformed, elitist *holes you can have the displeasure of talking to.

He needs a nice home cooked meal from a former conservative.

Shallow Conceptual Understanding Test: Can the individual argue both sides effectively? This demonstrates robust understanding. If they can't, they're just following a crowd.

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u/Sulandir Sep 22 '22

Shallow Conceptual Understanding Test: Can the individual argue both sides effectively?

Not all sides are worth arguing for. Example: As a German we learned ofc to argue for different sides depending on the issue, but never, ever did we argue from the point of view of the NDP (the successor of the NSDAP, i.e. the nazis). You know why? Because there is a red line that some sides should not cross and nobody should even contemplate them for even a moment after a certain point.

This has nothing to do with "leftist" elitism, just practical common sense to quickly eliminate nonsensical positions. You don't need to argue both sides of whether the earth is flat, simply because it is a waste of time.

You see there is a stark difference between neutrality and actual objectivity. Treating GOP and DNC from a neutral point of view gets you to some kind of enlightened centrism that is just lunacy and supports extremism in its worst ways.

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u/n0tAgOat Sep 22 '22

This is all great, and true. I wasn't writing a paper on it, just making a general statement for some readers.

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u/MohammadRezaPahlavi Sep 22 '22

Not all leftists work for the DNC my dude

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u/rimbaud_steve Sep 22 '22

as a centrist I hate the left

Yeah, no shit. We've all seen that in action over decades.

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u/intashu Sep 22 '22

It is growing increasingly difficult to argue both sides when it seems the conservative party is pulling harder and harder in support of absurdity.

But trying to argue that just gets seen as a extremist leftist idea. :/

I ain't even actively in support of the lukewarm democrats we have a majority of, the two party system is a joke. Specially when the options are rubbish or flaming garbage to choose from.

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u/tylerPA007 Sep 22 '22

What even is this take? Truly at a loss of what you’re trying to say.

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u/The-Apprentice-Autho Sep 23 '22

Centrist logic is what it is

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u/n0tAgOat Sep 22 '22

OP was making a joke about how all the person in the video needs is a home cooked meal from a liberal and then he would also be liberal. I was joking back that would only work if he had dinner with someone on the left who isn't fucking crazy, then there'd be a better shot at it.

The fine print was supposed to explain this line of reasoning, and is also a joke itself; insinuating that people on the left are as close minded as people on the right.

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u/imoacab Sep 22 '22

"fine ill cook you this fucking meatloaf, just keep your racist policy goals in check until after dinner, sir!"

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u/Badfiish Sep 22 '22

Orrrrrrrr there's all sorts of people who lean left or right? Maybe we don't put everyone in the same camp

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u/innocentrrose Sep 22 '22

A family friend of mine is conservative and literally threw a temper tantrum in Public because of masks during 2020, shit was embarrassing. Compare it to most the people I talk/hangout with who are leftists and not annoying, and are similar to me. I chose my friends, I didn’t choose to hangout with that family friend. So yeah of course out of 300+million in this country there are a lot of annoying people lmao just about who you choose to hangout with

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u/Badfiish Sep 22 '22

That's all I was saying.

Most people aren't die hard for thier political party, most are just under informed

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u/intashu Sep 22 '22

Unfortunatly in a two party system, which is heavily rigged... You're stuck having to be one or the other. It comes down to what do you accept as more important... to ignore the bad in the party you end up with.

It is by design polarizing.. Even though the overwhelming majority of Americans would vote for the same thing and have very similar opinions.. (they just disagree on finer details).

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u/Badfiish Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

I agree with you.

The person I'm responding to seems to think the party makes the person for some reason

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u/EastBoxerToo Sep 22 '22

In our system you're stuck performing as one or the other for social acceptance. At the end of the day all Republicans and all Democrats ultimately do theater to help grow the same WalMart profits.

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u/ShameOnAnOldDirtyB Sep 22 '22

Homie you don't just casually support trump, not anymore

He literally tried to overthrow the fucking government and incited violence against political opponents

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u/Anthaenopraxia Sep 22 '22

Most people don't belong in either camp.

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u/Skkkjbmldihbdlsvvukb Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

I've thought a bit about this.

Conservatism is in some ways a natural partner of progressivism. It's not supposed to block us from moving forward. It's supposed to temper detached idealism by grounding it in proven history.

Probably the best writer who envisioned this relationship was Peter Viereck, who saw his concept of conservatism as something of a check to the political radicalism of 1930s fascist and communist ideologues. His ideas are largely liberal. To overgeneralize, the core difference stems from a perspective that's very distrustful of human nature, unchained from civilizing influences. He and his contemporaries faded out into history, as political conservatism in western societies took a very different path. Still, it's interesting to read about.

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u/n0tAgOat Sep 22 '22

This is really good, thanks.

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u/Syrinx221 Sep 23 '22

I just have to wonder who the hell you're spending time with if you genuinely feel this way

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u/juneeebuggy Sep 22 '22

That might be true, if he gravitated towards the right due to his hatred for others, but he doesn’t seem to fit the criteria for that. A lot of people, myself included, gravitate to the right because we agree with alot of the points being pushed by the right, not because of hate. The left has insane people pushing BS narratives, just as the right has insane people pushing BS narratives. You have to look at the people in the middle to get a good understanding of their ideals, and where they’re coming from.

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u/watch_over_me Sep 22 '22

Judging by these comments here, the left will just still call him a racist, lol.

So many "he doesn't mean that, he's just mad they're doing it out loud."

The strawmanning in modern politics literally makes me want to vomit.

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u/HaYuFlyDisTang Sep 22 '22

Over here in reality im not seeing much of that. Overwhelming support for this guy calling them out.

But you have a great imagination! And such great irony with the complaint about strawmen!

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u/RegencyAndCo Sep 22 '22

The irony of that last sentence.

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u/watch_over_me Sep 22 '22

Maybe if you're going with the Alanis Morsette definition, lol.

Is it like rain on your wedding day?

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u/paps1788 Sep 22 '22

You said strawmanning makes you want to vomit while saying the monolithic left will call him racist. I am sure you can find someone to point to, but it seems he has a lot of support here.

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u/watch_over_me Sep 22 '22

I was literally referring to the comments here.

I don't need to erect a strawman, when there are 12 people in this thread who I quoted, lol.

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u/RegencyAndCo Sep 22 '22

No this one is dramatic irony, where the protagonist was unaware that they were the one strawmanning this whole time, but the reader knows. The reader knows.

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u/watch_over_me Sep 22 '22

Like a black fly in your chardonnay?

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u/Giraffes_Are_Gay Sep 22 '22

Lol I love how you people think only the left can be good people. “What? A Trump supporter is standing up against those racists? Smh he must be a secret undercover leftist.”

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u/tylerPA007 Sep 22 '22

Gotta try to meet people where they’re at. Some are salvageable, others not so much.

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u/misls Sep 23 '22

Goodluck, the left’s economic policies would not bring anyone over to the left if they want a better life.

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u/Gohlgotha Sep 22 '22

Ya right. You dont change your entire worldview and perception on taxes, immigration, child drag shows and baby killing after a meal.