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Trumpist Curses at KKK members (context i found on original video)

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u/Were-watching Sep 22 '22 Silver

This needs to happen more.

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u/xActuallyabearx Sep 22 '22 Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

Yes, but what needs to happen even more is him stopping to wonder why the kkk keeps showing up to support his buddies. Curious 🤔

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u/chilidoggo Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22 Gold

You know what makes the KKK not show up to your events? When you tell them straight up that you do not want them there.

From the 2020 debates

WALLACE: You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out antifa and other left-wing extremist groups. But are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland? Are you prepared to specifically do that?

TRUMP: Sure, I'm prepared to do that. But I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing. If you look, I'm willing to do anything. I want to see peace.

WALLACE: Then do it, sir.

BIDEN: Do it. Say it.

TRUMP: You want to call them? What do you want to call them? Give me a name, give me a name, go ahead — who would you like me to condemn?

WALLACE: White supremacists, white supremacists and right-wing militia.

TRUMP: Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But I'll tell you what: Somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left. Because this is not a right-wing problem — this is a left-wing problem.

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u/Shermthedank Sep 22 '22

They loved their new slogan so much they had tshirts made.

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u/LouisLeGros Sep 22 '22

We are all domestic terrorists.

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u/Kaeny Sep 22 '22

Reminds me of the KenM meme

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u/SingleWish Sep 22 '22

I am all domestic terrorist on this blessed day

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u/Burster55 Sep 22 '22

Clapping intensifies

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u/KnockoffJesus Sep 22 '22

I remember listening to that with my at the time republican dad and it just sent chills down our spines. You just can't do that man

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u/chocolateEuropeo Sep 22 '22

You just can't do that man

He did. And he almost won again :(

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u/IndependentEmergency Sep 22 '22

He didn't win the first time, either. :[

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u/ZarqxKombat Sep 22 '22

As much as I hate him yes he did win lol

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u/carmichael109 Sep 23 '22

I suspect they're referring to the popular vote which he lost both times.

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u/Mi-willy Sep 23 '22

Ah yes the people’s vote, the one that should matter, but doesn’t.

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u/mutherfucker_jones Sep 22 '22

The sheer amount of votes he got is shocking but he still got smoked in the election.

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u/90daylimitedwarranty Sep 22 '22

Yup, he literally told them to "stand by"

Ask a Trump supporter about this. They will NEVER give you an excuse. All they do is project. "What about the racist groups Biden supports" is what they'll say or some nonsense like this instead of ever addressing their lord's clear cut racism.

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u/MrPoopieMcCuckface Sep 22 '22

Don’t let them deflect. Make them answer and tel them after you will answer for what joe said. They will never have anything specific on joe

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u/90daylimitedwarranty Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

You cannot. I've talked to two Trumpers I know in person over the years and literally would not answer one question. EVERY answer was to deflect. Refuse to answer anything no matter how many times you point out "you're simply reflecting and not answering anything. Absolutely refuse.

Asked one of these guys "what about the racism?" and he literally said "what racism?"

They live in an alternate reality. Literally.

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u/probablyagiven Sep 22 '22

that's when you insult them, their intelligence, their honesty and their integrity. fucking lying degenerates

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u/BoydCrowders_Smile Sep 23 '22

Yeah there is a breaking point where they "They go low we go high" method that just doesn't work, and we've been way past that for a while.

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u/zahzensoldier Sep 23 '22

Okay, so people should start going low on their republican family members.. what does that look like?

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u/probablyagiven Sep 27 '22

by insulting their traitor asses

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u/EliteSnackist Sep 22 '22

To advocate for the devil, after Charlottsville he did condemn white nationalists and neo nazis, but the only part that gets discussed is when he said the "fine people on both sides" comment. The immediate follow-up to that was "I'm not talking about the neo nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally", but it was still reported that "Trump called neo nazis 'fine people'".

This article illustrates my point very well. The headline is flat out wrong, even if you believe Trump would defend white nationalist, he explicitly didn't.

Trump has done plenty of piss poor crap, don't get me wrong, much of which is worthy of condemnation. But, I'm not sure how much his condemnation would matter. I'm not saying that he just shouldn't condemn evil people, he absolutely should, but even when he does, news articles claim that he didn't. I don't believe for a second that Trump isn't egomaniacal enough to not condemn evil people just to piss people off after that. Obviously that's the wrong move, but Trump seems to win with his base anyway. Either he condemns evil people and his "mainstream media" lies about it, which gets his base riled up for him, or he doesn't and now he's trolling the libs and they love it too.

He wins either way.

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u/IndependentEmergency Sep 22 '22

I like how racist the President supposedly is, yet he chose a black woman for his vice president, and he worked with our first black president. He so cleverly hides his racism by pretending to be Obama's friend.

Thanks a lot, Obama.

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u/Ye_Old_Sniffer Sep 22 '22

I sometimes wonder if he meant to say "stand down and stand aside" and just bungled his sentence. But that doesn't really matter when he's too prideful or vindictive to correct himself on a mistake, a la covfefe.

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u/Donovan1232 Sep 23 '22

Nah i saw a pretty funny one. Somw dude on youtube said he really meant to say stand down and just had a "slip of the tongue". I want to be able to laugh at them but considering these people can vote and put him back in power its not really that funny anymore

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u/sanguinesolitude Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

Trump's allies actively worked with the Proud boys to plan Jan 6th. They literally provided security for Roger Stone. He said exactly what he meant, and they heard the message loud and clear. You're delusional to think otherwise given that they 100% stood by and showed up to overturn the election for the guy who asked them to.

"I condemn the proud boys" is not a hard statement to make and yet he didn't. I thought you guys were all "he tells it like it is" except whenever he says unacceptable shit you immediately swing to "Well what he meant to say was..."

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u/sanguinesolitude Sep 22 '22

I'm guessing a lot of things don't make sense to you. Bless your heart for trying though.

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u/Admirable-Bar-6594 Sep 22 '22

We've been hearing this for 6 years...

"Well akshually, even though he said those exact words what he really meant was this exact opposite."

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u/TheTaoOfOne Sep 22 '22

What did he actually mean then, if not what he said? This isn't some q anon conspiracy theory where you have to solve a puzzle to figure out what it means.

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u/90daylimitedwarranty Sep 22 '22

except he was asked numerous times about it and would change it - in fact he was asked numerous times to denounce the proud boys and it was like the 20th or 21st time, someone literally said "you've been asked 20 times now, literally to denounce the proud boys and you always beat around the bush" so yeah, he definitely meant stand by, with out question.

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u/moesif Sep 22 '22

Then he could have clarified with a tweet or a "truth" at some point. He didn't.

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u/Global_Shower_4534 Sep 22 '22

The proud boys from my understanding wasn't originally a racist organization. The ironic thing is it became one because of everyone that kept saying it was one. That being said Trump still shouldn't of told anyone to "stand by" in that context.

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u/i_will_let_you_know Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Your understanding is wrong. The original creator left because it wasn't racist enough for him. That's the kind of person that created the group.

Later that year, the Proud Boys went to a white supremacist rally. Imagine that not being "good enough."

Moreover, that notion is nonsense. Organizations don't massively change their goals and structure solely because of gossip. It's not a decentralized group without leaders.

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u/Global_Shower_4534 Sep 23 '22

I honestly stopped paying attention to them about as quick as they hit my radar. From what I saw a majority (at least from the loudest ones) weren't racist, but they were self righteous douchebags. After (maybe during, I'm willing to concede) everyone started calling it a racist organization, the douchebags left and the racists took their place.

My point is that regardless of when it went from bad to worse, the racists blew the gathering horn and we all helped spread the sound.

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u/TheBelhade Sep 22 '22

Telling somebody to stop what they're doing is "stand down". "Stand by" means to await further orders. He obviously do is that on purpose hoping no one would know the difference.

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u/Jonnny Sep 22 '22

Not to mention saying "Stand down" is to issue orders, implicitly acknowledging you're the leader of their shitstain "movement" wannabe.

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u/LSDkiller Sep 23 '22

Stand by is even more acknowledging that you are the leader because it implies that even more orders are coming. Stand down ostensibly could just be a president telling misguided people who respect him to stop. Stand by is, "good so far, now await my further commands". Honestly though, I think he just posted that because he's an idiot. Trump knows they would follow further orders later even if he told them to stand down, and come on it's not like he was planning to go back on Twitter a few hours later and write "now get pence out of the bunker for me guys".

He's just a clumsy guy who is terrible with words, at least by any normal persons metric. That's what I dislike most about him personally. I don't care about his politics, it's not his anyway. If you've paid attention and know who trump is as a person, where he's from, you'd know that before the election he didn't believe in or care about half that crap. What he cares about most is being famous and people thinking he's right and "winning". Politics, especially populist racist culture war politics was his way to get there. I'm sure now he "believes" it, whatever that means for a guy like trump to whom the truth just isn't important.

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u/A_Canadian_appears Sep 22 '22

It's also possible he's just a moron who can't string two words together with any kind of competence.

But yeah, that was wild

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u/Watertor Sep 22 '22

The hard part is accepting he's not a moron. He's the cheapest, laziest bastard you can imagine. But he's not an idiot. Everything he does and has done for the past 20 years has been thoroughly pageantry to do exactly what he wants to do whenever he wants to do it.

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u/A_Canadian_appears Sep 22 '22

Multiple types of intelligence. He's a clever grifter, but he's very dumb in other ways.

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u/mnmminies Sep 22 '22

Very dumb. No smart person signs a bill strengthening laws around taking classified documents that don’t belong to them (just to get back at their political opponents) only to then, after multiple warnings from advisors and lawyers, go and take hundreds of the most classified documents. Yes, he knows how to grift with the best of them, but if he actually was smart he would have sold masks with his face and name on them and told his supporters “we’re all in this together.” He could have easily been re-elected if he just stopped tweeting and took COVID seriously. Everything that is happening to him is his own fault.

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u/Watertor Sep 22 '22

He pretends to be dumb. None of us know what he actually is like behind closed doors, which is a figurehead for hundreds of individuals that make the network of diarrhea that helms this country. I'm not saying he's a genius, I'm just saying don't downplay that he's exactly where he wants to be and he wants you (or voters like you) to think of him exactly how you think of him. It makes it easier when you tell a Republican "He's an idiot" for said Republican to deflect and assume you're the actual idiot. It's literally all part of the 60 year long chess game the GOP has been playing. The idea that he's dumb or nothing more than clever is just one of the many pieces.

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u/A_Canadian_appears Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

Mmmmmmm....I think you're giving him too much credit, tbh. I don't think he's "exactly where he wants to be". Where he wants to be is the oval office, free from investigation, lining the wallets of himself, his family, and his friends and being lauded as the best president of the past century. I think he does manipulate the media by throwing as much shit at everything as possible (a lá Roy Cohn), but I'm not convinced his persona of being an idiot is artificed. His ego is too fragile for that, IMO.

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u/i_will_let_you_know Sep 23 '22

Donald Trump was definitely not a part of the GOP's plan before 2014.

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u/Watertor Sep 23 '22

No, but Trump himself made himself part of the plan, which is why he's not a Putin-esque placeholder for shadow state figures. Trump made claims in the 80s about this and rolled tide until he became President on a whim. Which is why he's not stupid, he's just an annoying, awful person. Yet he hemorrhage's money and still drives around every year of Rolls Royce that he feels like and somehow keeps going to do more silly, rich shit.

When I say "it's all part of the plan" I don't mean Trump, I mean denigrating anything about the GOP. Trump just laid himself into that cast perfectly.

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u/i_will_let_you_know Sep 23 '22

If he was smart, he wouldn't make nearly as many mistakes with no benefit.

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u/Watertor Sep 23 '22

Like I said, he's the laziest and cheapest bastard. He's also lived like a billionaire without ever being a billionaire, had worldwide renown and status, become president on literally absolutely nothing but smoke and mirrors, and has not been profitable or successful in just about anything while constantly getting more opportunities to be profitable and successful and facing no repercussions whatsoever.

If you could do it like he has, you would as well. But no one can be Donald "Holy shit why are you not in prison, under water, or hanged at a stake" Trump

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u/Reliable-Information Sep 22 '22

Or maybe he is just a good actor.

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u/eveningsand Sep 22 '22

TRUMP: aloof? No, I use a washcloth.

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u/OffensivelySqueamish Sep 22 '22

I remember this. I couldn't help but laugh out loud. This was the exact OPPOSITE of the intent of the question. Instead of marginalizing the threat he escalated it. Absolutely insane. I still can't believe he wasn't thrown out of office. Liberals and progressives have sought the middle ground so much the "center" is really the "right" and the "right" are really just fascists.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

He disavowed and denounced white supremacists dozens of times, only the left media wouldn’t shut the fuck up about it pretending he’s been secret buddies with this tiny minority group

https://youtu.be/RGrHF-su9v8

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u/Potatolimar Sep 22 '22

You'll notice he disavows David Duke, the KKK, but never white supremacy as a whole. He's "prepared to" but he never does. He dodges the white supremacist question usually. He says he has; I think he genuinely thinks he has.

He denounces white supremacists that cause violence at 2:14.

His wording is a bit weird. He says he's prepared to. He says he has. He condemns portions of the group. He says "the nation must" but never him specifically. He condemns white nationalism. He says he's concerned about it and will do something about it.

They're not buddies, but it's like he has some weird curse on him that he can't outright say it.

I'd say his intentions seem clear, even if his words are not technically saying it. It's really a level of pedantry you only see in court and on reddit.

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u/DieselMcblood Sep 22 '22

Well why would he tell them to stand by? stand by means await further instructions.

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u/chilidoggo Sep 22 '22

The full context? This segment started with a question to Biden about the recent BLM protests, and a focus on left-wing violence (that's why it transitions from that in the beginning of the quote). This is the full transcript if you don't believe me. Here's what Biden said for his piece:

I’ve made it clear in my public statements that the violence should be prosecuted. It should be prosecuted, and anyone who commits it should be prosecuted.

I'm also aware that Trump has, in several interviews, denounced white supremacy, racists, and similar things. But you can also very easily find moments like this where he is being, at best, vague about how he feels about it. It's not like it's hard to say you dislike violence and white supremacy. Not hard at all...

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u/theonlydidymus Sep 22 '22

You’re calling someone out for nitpicking but didn’t bring any receipts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

Yeah all you need to do to stop the KKK is tell them you don't want them there.

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u/Infamous_Bus1578 Sep 22 '22

Wait mb, are we talking about the KKK or the proud boys?

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u/neenaa2000 Sep 22 '22

Hmmm it was Biden that said "Proud Boys".

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u/5teerPike Sep 22 '22

And I'll just leave this here

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u/chilidoggo Sep 22 '22

What about it?

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u/5teerPike Sep 22 '22

White supremacists and right wing extremists are the most present terrorist threat to the US. Not "the left".

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u/downonthesecond Sep 22 '22

What does the KKK have to do with the Proud Boys?

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u/iamverysadallthetime Sep 22 '22

So he told the "proud boys" to stand back and stand by... sounds like he was telling them to just wait... Not exactly condemning them. And then to shift blame to the left wing. This message tells me he is happy to have the support of white supremacist and he and they can do no wrong, it's the others side's fault.

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u/rolypolyarmadillo Sep 22 '22

It feels like that debate happened like a decade ago, so much has gone on in the past two years

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u/LittleAstroDroid Sep 22 '22

"Proud boys, stand back and stand by." That's not choosing peace

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u/The_R4gulator Sep 22 '22

Yes 🙌 I never liked the dude and when this happened I was just like what is happening??

I started reading 1984 this week and it’s so surreal reading about The Brotherhood. The differences that should be there to divide the Trumperdink cult from would be fictional terrorists aren’t there at all. Still blows my mind how spot on Orwell was with some of this crap when he wrote it in 1949.

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u/IndependentEmergency Sep 22 '22

Antifa means anti-fascist. Do he and his followers understand what a fascist is? Or are they really jazzed about fascism? I mean, they act like it. Weird that he and at least one of his other relatives contributed to Kamala Harris at some point in the past. She's always been "left", right?

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u/MiKapo Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

Most trump supporters imagine Trump as something he really isn't. Trump can say 5000 times he isn't a white supremacist but the white supremacist will say "that's just trump playing 4D chess...man!! He's actually on our side". And to their credit trump is too much of a coward to denounce it. He thought that there were good people "on both sides" in Charlottesville and acted like he didn't know who David Duke was in order to avoid that question of Duke wanting to endorse him rather than saying "F David Duke" outright.

But we also have Qanon movement that believes trump is either a reincarnated Jesus or that he is Q, we have Matt Garrison cartoons that depict trump as a muscular 180-pound man. And we have racist like Nick Feutes continuing to praise him

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u/dro13 Sep 23 '22

I hate Trump but this was clearly him misspeaking. Wallace asked if he would tell these groups to “Stand down”. He tripped over his words and tried to correct it twice (whiffing both times), with “Stand back and stand by”. This is exactly how Trump corrects himself when he trips over his words. He wouldn’t say “Stand back-whoops, I mean Stand Down”. He breezes over it and adds the “and” as if he meant to say the first thing all along. Here are some examples.…skip to 1:25, segment “Thing 2”.

That said, he could have done a much better job denouncing these people over the years. And the Proud Boys did pick up the slogan for their own use. But I think it’s pretty obvious that this wasn’t some secretive way for him to command them to “stand by and await orders” or something.

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u/ToplaneVayne Sep 23 '22

https://youtu.be/Bd0cMmBvqWc from elsewhere in this thread. According to your logic, they shouldn't affiliate themselves with Republicans anymore.

The real reason why Republicans tend to be more associated with racists is because they're harsher on immigration and that aligns with racist views. This is why a multi-party system is needed, so there is more nuance in who you vote for. That's how it is here in Canada and at least personally I find my vote is much more valuable when I can vote for NDP who align with my views instead of voting for Liberals because 'they're the less bad party'

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u/SomeNoteToMyself Sep 23 '22

It still fucking baffles me that barley any Republican politicians criticised him for this. It’s fucking crazy

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u/BigBoyGoldenTicket Sep 23 '22

‘Stand back and stand by.’

I forgot about this gem

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u/xApolloh Sep 23 '22

Now add the transcripts for the other 10 times he denounced white supremacy and the KKK.

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u/Bruce-the_creepy_guy Sep 23 '22

That is when Biden won the presidency.

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u/AliensAreDemons Oct 15 '22

The proud boys are white supremacists, genius.

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u/lingerieaddict94 Oct 16 '22

Proud Boys are very, very far from the KKK. Not even remotely similar.

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u/FineIGiveIn Sep 22 '22

You really thought you did something here, didn't you.

Maybe should have cut off that "But I'll tell you what: Somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left" part though.