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Trumpist Curses at KKK members (context i found on original video)

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u/12thandvineisnomore Sep 22 '22

Well I applaud you, and the two guys in this video. The rest of the Trumpists appear strangely silent…

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u/YourMama Sep 22 '22

The guys in the background “speak for yourselves…”

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u/ILove2Bacon Sep 23 '22

"I don't like what you're saying about my cousin. I thought you supported the police?"

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u/TheJuiceIsLooser Sep 22 '22

Most people don't yell at people in public

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u/thesolarchive Sep 22 '22

If ya get a chance to boo a supremacist you should take it.

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u/olderthanbefore Sep 22 '22

It's a political event, yelling is pretty much all that you do

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 22 '22

Maybe if most people did, we'd have less nazis.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 22 '22

Plus yelling at them makes them feel persecuted

Good. Nazis SHOULD feel persecuted and afraid and like they have to hide who they are every time they go out of the house. That's the feeling they want to impress upon other people after all.

In general if you're yelling at someone in public most people are looking at you like you've lost

The idea is just to make sure everyone knows if you rep nazi shit, then going out in public is going to make your life difficult. Random bystanders aren't even really a part of the equation. Let them think what they want as long as their brain picks up on the pattern that "wearing/saying nazi propaganda= shitty day".

because even if your points are correct you're fighting emotionally.

IMO that's mostly snooty aloof people. It's only in bougie "polite society" that you'll find people who think it's worse to yell in public than to be a nazi. If you hear somebody making good, logical, valid points, but you disagree with them just because you don't like that they raised their voice or that they're "acting emotionally", that sounds like a lack of integrity or some mixed up priorities. IMO nazis are a bigger negative on society than somebody yelling.

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 22 '22

That hasn't been my experience with videos. Sounds like we just have different opinions.

Say what you will but any point made yelling would be more effective delivered calmly.

I really don't believe that's true at all. If you remain coherent, a yelled message can sometimes be more effective. The issue is that many people lose their shit and start blabbering stuff that doesn't make sense.

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u/Psycko_90 Sep 22 '22

In general if you're yelling at someone in public most people are looking at you like you've lost because even if your points are correct you're fighting emotionally

Speak for yourself. If I see people yelling at each other, I'll just think they're having an argument. I'll just continue with my day without any second thought about it. It's quite normal to fight emotionally sometimes, it's simply human...

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u/darth_smith Sep 22 '22

No we wouldn't. We would just have a lot of quiet Nazis that gathered in secret. I'm glad that they feel so arrogant that they can show their true colors so good people can avoid them.

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 22 '22

Quiet nazis gathering in secret are able to recruit less people than loud nazis gathering in public. The ability to be out in the open empowers them by making them feel more accepted, and helps bring together the quiet ones that otherwise wouldn't have found other people like them.

Make nazis afraid to show themselves outside, that's the feeling they want to give other people after all.

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u/Top4ce Sep 22 '22

Ask the punk scene how they handled Nazis.

It wasn't by letting them in.

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u/fiduke Sep 22 '22

Because most people aren't actively cheering for genocide. If someone was, you need to do something, not just stand there quietly.

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u/RedDeadRevengeance Sep 22 '22

The people who follow Trump do.

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u/RootsAndFruit Sep 22 '22

I've seen TONS of trumpers yelling at leftists in public, what are you talking about?

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u/EffOffReddit Sep 22 '22

Mmhmm but now imagine a trans woman walks by.

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u/abnormally-cliche Sep 22 '22

Well it looks like a political rally so thats kind of what they do… its not like they’re strolling through the city on a calm Sunday afternoon. Why even show up if you’re just going to stand there and do nothing?

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u/Desperate_Tea7387 Sep 22 '22

But how will I talk over you if I don’t yell?

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u/Zaea Sep 22 '22

Yeah it's usually either the brave ones or the crazy ones. These two men were brave to go against the KKK who are known for literal violence. Most humans are neither brave nor crazy though, just kind of existing.

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u/bestest_at_grammar Sep 22 '22

In all fairness this is a short clip, they could’ve already flipped them off or yelled at them and are now just doing their own thing

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u/AzafTazarden Sep 22 '22

I wouldn't be so quick. Some of these people are only mad because the kkk makes them LOOK bad, not because they are racist pieces of shit who have no place in modern society.

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u/12thandvineisnomore Sep 22 '22

Oh agreed. They don’t like the portion of their party that says the quiet parts out loud.

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u/r1char00 Sep 22 '22

They probably went back to applauding DeSantis human trafficking migrants right after the video.

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u/CptPottawatomieBrown Sep 23 '22

Nah if you support trump you are supporting white nationalism.

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u/WARM_IT_UP Sep 22 '22

Not every Trump supporter is a racist but every racist is a Trump supporter.

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u/12thandvineisnomore Sep 22 '22

Bigots maybe. But racism as a factor of economic disparity is something both parties have held hands on for six decades.

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u/skelingtun Sep 22 '22

Strangely?...

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u/0kb00 Sep 22 '22

I voted Trump and obviously don’t support the KKK. The constant accusations of Republicans being KKK supporters are hopefully insincere.

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u/the-red-wheelbarrow Sep 22 '22

I hear what you're saying. I genuinely think that most Trump supporters are like the guy in this video in regards to actually supporting the kkk. Unfortunately, I also don't see much reflection by most Trump supporters on why it is that KKK members support you guys.

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u/0kb00 Sep 22 '22

My honest opinion is that these "KKK members" who intermittently attend Trump rallies are not even legitimate. but even though I think Qsh*t is idiotic I'll be called a Qsh*tter for daring to think that these are just photo ops by bad actors.

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u/the-red-wheelbarrow Sep 22 '22

Unfortunately the kkk more or less endorsed Trump in 2016 so it's not particularly unbelievable that they would attend his rallies

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u/FYRHWK Sep 22 '22

The accusations are usually due to affiliation. I don't think you can really deny that most klan assholes back trump though.

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u/0kb00 Sep 22 '22

Probably. The KKK is a dying org as it should be. So it’s just weird to look at 50% of who you share the country with and go “I bet they’re KKK.”

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u/FYRHWK Sep 23 '22

Could say the same about antifa or a dozen other groups. Lots of people take the low hanging fruit.

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u/Dopple__ganger Sep 22 '22

And most that say ACAB back the other side. What’s your point?

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u/YourMama Sep 22 '22

Republicans love fascists. Fascist militarized police who kill unarmed people and fascist leaders like Putin and Kim Jong un or trumps bffs

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u/Dopple__ganger Sep 22 '22

Yea I’m sure that’s why Putin waited until trump was out of office to invade Ukraine.

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u/YourMama Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

Because Putin and trump are bffs and Putin didn’t want to upset his pal? Yes you’re correct. The guy wanted to run tanks on roads for a parade for fucks sake. Like military fascist leader parades. Crazy that you trumpies are blind to this

They told him he couldn’t because tanks would damage public roads. He’s either a fascist or dumb as fuck. Probably some fr column A and a lot fr column B

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u/FYRHWK Sep 23 '22

That maybe you shouldn't judge a group by a few outliers that back one side? Thought that was pretty clear.

Problem is if you find yourself at a party where Nazis feel comfortable walking around, you may want to reevaluate your choices.

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u/Dopple__ganger Sep 23 '22

Maybe you shouldn’t judge an entire group by a few outliers that back one side?

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u/WillDeletOneDay Sep 22 '22

I wont say Trumpists outright support the KKK, but many of them will gladly take implicit support from the KKK. Not as bad is being a full blown white supremacist, but bad enough to be willing to do business with them.

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u/0kb00 Sep 22 '22

That’s a depressing perception that is thankfully incorrect, built up by a media caricature rather than actually talking to people. Caricaturizing each other is how we end up with political extremism and blind hatred. Wish there were more honest attempts to not hate one another in politics. Nobody but the KKK likes the KKK. They need to just disappear already and thankfully the org seems already on life support.

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u/FecalToothpaste Sep 22 '22

Let's be honest, it's really hard to not hate a political party who:

-actively works to rig elections to make sure their party wins

-takes rights away from women

-restricts voting rights to make (to "make elections fair" even though they were the ones cheating)

-tries to take rights away from minority groups

-uses migrants and asylum seekers as political pawns (while effectively participating in human trafficking)

-wants to make the country a Christian nationalist nation

-believes an insurrection and threatening to kill the VP is an acceptable way to handle losing an election

-supports beating, maiming, and killing protesters including members of the media reporting on the protests (unless it's their party protesting, then it's fine and even better if the goal is to kill opposing party politicians)

-supports dismantling social safety nets

-supports lowering taxes for the highest earners and letting the poor and middle class make up for the loss

Sorry bud but if you vote republican these are the things you're supporting. And if you're supporting fucking our country then I hope you get fucked the hardest.

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u/WillSmiff Sep 23 '22

It's as if, if you don't support the left, you have nowhere to go. The right support some really nasty things, but the left are also so open minded that much of their brains are falling out. The left can't conceive that they might actually be wrong on their stances.

It's like having to choose between youthful idealism and moral righteousness, or conspiracies and religion and all the crap that comes with that.

You all fucking suck.

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u/0kb00 Sep 22 '22

"racist policies" okay whatever, like you think Voter ID is racist or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW2LpFkVfYk I know this isn't a political debate sub so ... but I'm just so sick of a different viewpoint being auto-regarded as 'racist' by online democrats. as for hate groups, nobody likes them, these KKK people get cussed out every single time they show up and I don't even know if they're legitimate or trolls

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u/FecalToothpaste Sep 22 '22

Every one of your comments suggests hate groups "might be trolls." You can play the "I'm a moderate republican" persona but you're buying into the Q shit hard. Own up to who you are.

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u/window-sil Sep 22 '22

Fortunately I think it's only a minority of Trumpists who threaten everybody else with violence. I mean I also hate the Klan, but like, there's a first amendment and it's a free country so people can waltz around saying really deploring shit if they want to.

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u/FYRHWK Sep 22 '22

There are limits to that. Can't yell fire in a theater just cause it's funny, there are consequences to some types of speech and this should be one of them.

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u/MAKE_ME_REDDIT Sep 22 '22

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u/WillDeletOneDay Sep 22 '22

"How could openly promoting violent rhetoric possibly backfire on us one day?"

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u/window-sil Sep 22 '22

🙁

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 22 '22

Every time a Nazi gets knocked the fuck out, a Captain America gets their shield somewhere in the multiverse.

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u/MAKE_ME_REDDIT Sep 22 '22

You feel bad for the Nazis?

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u/window-sil Sep 22 '22

I feel bad that people think violence is justified against unpopular speech.

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u/MAKE_ME_REDDIT Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Yeah, you're basically a Nazi.

Nazi cowards reporting my comment for threatening violence. If you feel like me saying "punch Nazis" is threatening you, then you're a Nazi.

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 22 '22

Sorry, but there's a social exception to the first amendment and assault/battery laws when it comes to punching a Nazi in the face. Every nazi you knock out should get you like a medal from the mayor or something. If I see a nazi get jumped, no I didn't.

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u/window-sil Sep 22 '22

Yea but I feel like once we go down that road two bad things happen:

  1. The line between "Nazi" and "person I disagree with" gets blurred; and

  2. Using violence invites the other side to use violence

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 23 '22

The line between "Nazi" and "person I disagree with" gets blurred

lol no, it doesn't get blurred at all. Much to their satisfaction, the line is actually pretty black and white. Anyone who identifies as a nazi or KKK: they can fuck off.

Using violence invites the other side to use violence

Fine, lets just get this shit over with. 3 o'clock, by the tetherball courts. Don't be late.(OBVIOUS FUCKING JOKE)

lmao somebody reported this comment for "credible threats of violence" fucking christ. mad nazis in this thread.

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u/window-sil Sep 23 '22

lmao somebody reported this comment for "credible threats of violence" fucking christ. mad nazis in this thread.

I took it as an obvious joke.. but when you also joke about "mad nazis in this thread" that's not always interpreted as a "joke" to people. It normalizes using violence against people you disagree with. Not good.

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u/CaveGnome Sep 23 '22

“C’mon on Zeb, we in the wrong line. ”

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u/VashPast Sep 22 '22

We, like this guy, are sick to death of pieces of trash like you parroting anything big brother puts in your mouth.

Strangely silent my asz.