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Trumpist Curses at KKK members (context i found on original video)

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 22 '22

Not all of them, there is a guy in my hometown that has a confederate flag flying and votes DNC every single election. I think I have a pic of an election sign in his yard with the confederate flag in the background.

But it's just "southern pride".

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u/Czsixteen Sep 22 '22

Now that's interesting.

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u/jasapper Sep 22 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval

If it's an older guy he may have just never gotten the memo re: Dems and Reps swapping ideologies back during the Civil Rights Movement.

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u/PrestigeCitywide Sep 23 '22

Lmao. I’m just imagining the man never paying an ounce of attention to anything other than when the election takes place then showing up and voting for Democrats because he assumes they’re still the most racist option. Thanks for that lol

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u/omghorussaveusall Sep 23 '22

That goddamned King preacher is a fucking Republican. Ain't never gonna catch me voting for those race traitors!

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u/RazekDPP Sep 23 '22

"I ain't never gunna vote for the party of Lincoln, they done did freed them there slaves!!"

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u/DrBigChicken Sep 23 '22

They are the best option to vote for if you hate people of color

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u/PrestigeCitywide Sep 23 '22

Go on. I’ll hear you out

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 22 '22

Early 50's. Just really dislikes black people for no reason other than racist. We've had a few go arounds.

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u/invalidcrazy Sep 22 '22

The ideological switch happened during the great depression

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u/fla_john Sep 23 '22

It began during the Depression, really turned during Civil Rights, and was complete with the election of Ronald Reagan

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u/ralexander1997 Sep 23 '22

I love that leftists can’t even agree when the infamous party switch was supposed to have happened lmao

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u/cruss4612 Sep 23 '22 'MURICA

Ugh. Your statement holds as much credibility as saying the sky is green.

Maybe, if you've never looked at any of the evidence.

The Democrats didn't stop being racist, they learned how to be racist quietly. Republicans didn't destroy black families, welfare did. And democrats want it to go further. The policies that end up screwing minorities the hardest and in inescapable ways, have always been supported by democrats. Hell Democrats brought back fucking segregation ayfs? But it's OK if we segregate now though, for inclusivity. They literally justify it as being equal to everyone else's, but separate.

Republicans didn't trap minorities and the poor with a structured incentive to be generational dependent on welfare. Republicans didn't cosponsor the bills that became laws to put "Super Predators" behind bars. Or to give police departments fucking hand grenades and tanks and antimateriel machine guns. Republicans are definitely to blame for the drug war that's killed millions, broken millions of homes, stamped on minority communities, and prevented important research on medicine. Republicans want work requirements and that's racist, except democrats prefer welfare recipients to legitimately have zero responsibility. Which is actually more damaging?

Let's not kid ourselves, the Republicans didn't actually switch with the democrats. All elections and the policies put in place during that time showed gradual but steady encroachment from the North. And as Republicans moved in, Jim Crow Laws were repealed or ended.

NEOCONS are fucking awful. I mean, they gave us the Bush family and Trump. But Democrats have been horribly racist, but they literally buy the black vote. Johnson opposed civil rights and called a SC Justice the N word. His strategy for securing the black vote was to start what our welfare system has become. Incentivizing single mother's (not fathers), no work, in government housing, eating government food, with money for clothes coming from government. Sound familiar? And here's why. It keeps them in check. They can take everything away at the drop of a pin. Do something they don't like, gone. Get too loud about something like giving a whole city full of black folk syphilis, then lie about treatment and watch them slowly die when a cure is available to gain knowledge we already knew. Gone. Btw FDR was the approval on that.

The current president has so many racially charged "gaffes" that he then voted in line with, I can't believe that anyone still believes this bullshit. Every single Democrat president has directly done something, or done something to make everyday life harder for Blacks. Voter ID is a one day a year thing. And it's racist af to say that black folks are so poor they can't get the thing they will get arrested(or shot) for not having. Fuck man, most ID laws say a piece of mail that matches stated name and address of record will work. Like junk mail. Or bill collectors. Or a electricity bill. Which is more damaging? Having an ID that you're already legally required to carry? Or being a child hearing "Black people are so poor they can't get a basic legal requirement"?

They didn't switch, they learned how to be low key.

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u/BlackSilkEy Sep 23 '22

My brother in Christ...if I had the $crilla you would have 2 gold awards rn. Probably the best summary of the African American political struggle I've seen on reddit.

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u/justtryingtounderst Sep 23 '22

what this fuck is this bizarre rant? this ain't even true...

go fuck yourself for your propaganda. Enough people have been hurt already.

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u/cruss4612 Sep 23 '22

It ain't propaganda. When examining cause and effect, it's clear what happened in the 60s and 70s.

Structurally, both parties remain the same as they were then. Democrats have been locked into their platform for 100 years, that didn't change. Very pro government. Very much pro welfare state. Very much exactly the same on every issue. Except one tiny thing.

There's zero evidence that the party even changed ideology besides "yes they did". They had Robert fucking Byrd as one of their highest held colleagues. The big "progressive" figures, Johnson, Byrd, FDR, Clinton, Obama, all of them did heavy damage to black households and their ability to ever be equal to white ones.

They just got better at image. The Democrats are masters at image. They change the terminology to suit their agenda. But they'll still have black folk eating in the gutter while they actively put measures in place that are structured to have the same end goal. They didn't switch parties. The racists got better at being racist.

Or are you going to tell me everything I mentioned was unintended. That Johnson didn't know when he said he'd have their vote for 200 years, that it was racist. He's friggin on tape N Wording all about Clarence Thomas. He called the Civil Rights Act the N word bill. He was a documented racist. Clinton said multiple abhorrent racist ass things while in office.

What's more likely? The party responsible for Jim Crow Laws suddenly up and changed ONE aspect of their approach? Or that the people who staffed that party became quietly calculating on how to suppress black folks success?

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u/zaxdaman Sep 23 '22

Still there’s this one Dem candidate…something, something…Obama. Did old guy still vote Dem?

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u/Pbx123456 Sep 23 '22

You mean the guy is still pissed off about the party of Lincoln? Did he miss out on the 1960’s civil rights switcharoo?

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u/pauljaytee Sep 23 '22

No, not remarkable. Any open group of sufficient size will attract scumbags and extremists.

It doesn't matter what the group says they'll do.

What matters is whether the groups actually take action to address the offenders

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u/TheCamerlengo Sep 22 '22

Yes it is. It seems improbable but there is always that one exception to the rule.

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u/3y3_l1v3_1n_p41n Sep 22 '22

That's how my grandma was. She was super old south. "Blacks are fine people, we just don't need to mix with em. They're too different. Blue birds and blackbirds don't mix." She was 100% democrats, voted for Kennedy.

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 22 '22

I've met a few.

I only replied with my story because I don't like absolutes. The world is full of grey.

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u/paythefullprice Sep 23 '22

That's how my grandma was. Blooped out when I dated a black girl in highschool. Was loud and proud of Obama.

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u/IcyEntertainment8908 Sep 23 '22

As a southerner by birth and mostly raised in the north (parents grew up in the south) I express southern pride by saying shit like "yall" or "kit and kaboodle" or "pertinear"

Ya know? Fun stuff. I never understood the southern pride as flying a "rebel" flag. Its flat out disgusting to me.

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u/EmilioFreshtevez Sep 23 '22

I live in Iowa and see a shitload of confederate flags to “represent their heritage.” This is interesting to me, because quite often these people have family lines that have been in the state for generations - and Iowa was never in the Confederacy.

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 23 '22

Especially when this guy has no southern roots, let alone visited there.

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u/IcyEntertainment8908 Sep 23 '22

And that their idea of the Confederate flag may not even be tied to the "south" just "heritage". What heritage? Hmmm?

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u/Rawnblade12 Sep 24 '22

Neither did I.

It's the flag of traitors, of racists who fought for the right to own other human beings.

What heritage? What pride? The Confederacy only lasted 4 fucking years!

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u/wiinkme Sep 23 '22

A lot of older white midwest union guys have been proudly Dem their entire lives. It usually isn't a left/right principal thing as much as the Democratic party was traditionally the party of the blue collar union worker. And from my experience, a chunk these dudes are very racist. Lived across the street (I'm in Michigan) from someone similar - flew a confederate flag in his garage but also talked up his 30 years as a union pipe fitter (not even sure what that means) and while he sure seemed like a typical MAGA capper, he always had political signs for the left each election.

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u/nokinship Sep 23 '22

They still are the union party at least in comparison to the gop.

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u/freshpairofayes Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Fox: The left are the REAL racists.

Oh really? Sign me up. /s

Edit: Thought /s would be enough to show it as a joke.(i.e, someone stupid enough to believe Fox) Oh well.

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 22 '22

A vast majority, VAST, of the liberal left are not racist.

But you be you and put words in mouths.

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u/ImNotARapist_ Sep 22 '22

I would argue it's a different kind of racism of low expectations. Like getting offended on behalf of others implying that minorities are either too stupid or too weak to defend themselves or know when something is offensive towards them.

And don't get me started on the amount of white liberals that think they are the savior of the unwashed colored people.

It's not a racism of hatred, but it's still good ole fashioned racism. "Oh you poor oppressed brown man, let me the empowered white uplift you from your poor wretched existence because you can't do it yourself!"...or as Biden put it "Poor kids are just as smart as white kids."

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u/Babill Sep 23 '22

Or racists against White people, which contrary to what some would like you to think, do exist.

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u/Interplanetary-Goat Sep 22 '22

That's what happens when you check the party platform in 1860 and then keep voting for one party without any further research.

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u/fileznotfound Sep 23 '22

That is impressively consistent.

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u/bob-knows-best Sep 23 '22

I live in New England. There's a middle aged black guy who moved into our neighborhood recently, and he, from time to time displays a confederate flag on his scooter, on the front yard. Yes, I said scooter. Also, the state I live in has no gangs, or ghettos. A few drug-heads and a growing homeless population, but that's it. I give background because I can't understand why a black man would ever display a confederate flag.🤷‍♂️

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u/Weekly_Direction1965 Sep 23 '22

Dude is a unicorn, Democrats are the ones banning that flag while Trump is upset about it.

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u/nokinship Sep 23 '22

Votes Democratic national convention?

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 23 '22

I worded that poorly, he votes for whatever the DNC backs as their favorite candidate, he doesn't do a single bit of research or understanding. He is a puppet voter.

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u/askeen01 Sep 23 '22

Not surprising at all. The Dems are the party of "White Supremacy". At least according to their old logos. Oh and don't forget old Robert Byrd.

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u/digital_disposition Sep 23 '22

I knew people when I was younger in Missouri that just liked the way the flag looked and they knew it was like "a rebel flag". I think theres a fair amount of Americans that just don't know the flags history. They just see it as being a rebel.

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 23 '22

Probably the only thing I'd ever want to see the flag on is the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard. OG tv show.

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u/HumorExpensive Sep 23 '22

He wouldn’t happen to be a blind black guy that grew up in an orphanage would he?

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u/military_dad_wi Sep 23 '22

lol, I understand that reference.

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u/HighMyNameisKayleigh Sep 23 '22

'A' guy in 'a' town. That's how rare that is 😅

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u/Rawnblade12 Sep 24 '22

Thats...Weird.

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u/Abcrooke Sep 23 '22

There was a guy in my hometown who was so racist he hated pennies for a laundry list of reasons, one of them being “they’re the same color as brown people”. This man voted for Hilary.