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Trumpist Curses at KKK members (context i found on original video)

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u/philsubby Sep 22 '22

And the popular response for why so many black people are democrats is "They're brainwashed." You don't think calling the 96% of black voters who voted for Biden brainwashed is racist? No actually, we're protecting them!

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u/Forrest024 Sep 23 '22

I do feel like biden is racist lol and he just trys to act like he is not to stay in his constituents good graces.

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u/OakenGreen Sep 23 '22

He is. We had to vote between two racists. This time we chose the lesser.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

Why do you think he's racist lol?

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u/retirement4DILFs Sep 23 '22

Probably his past racist remarks

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

Why do you think so many black people voted for him then? Just lesser of two evils?

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u/retirement4DILFs Sep 23 '22

I’m not black and didn’t vote for either of them so I can’t say

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

That's a fair answer lol.

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u/lurker_cant_comment Sep 23 '22

Having looked into it, I don't buy this at all.

The biggest examples always brought up where his opposition to busing as a solution to desegregation and the 1994 crime bill.

Except he was clear that he fully supported desegregation, he just thought busing wasn't going to work well to get there, and for the crime bill he was following prevailing opinion, including that of the leadership in the black community.

Context is everything when evaluating racism. Claiming something is racist because it could be read that way - especially when ignoring all the context surrounding that statement or idea - does not actually tell you whether the person who did that thing believes racist ideas.

From what I can see, sources claiming Biden is a racist are people or media with an axe to grind, and not once have I seen a case where a claim of "racism" against him held up in full context.

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u/retirement4DILFs Sep 23 '22

I don’t believe you have given the examples in this thread alone.

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u/lurker_cant_comment Sep 23 '22

Forgive me for not reading deep into the comments on this thread, because the only one I saw in my perusal was relating to the crime bill.

But feel free to enlighten me on these other cases. I'm all ears.

I'm sure you've made a good-faith effort at objective research to see if those claims bear out in truth and not just in an echo chamber. Right?

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u/retirement4DILFs Sep 23 '22

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/politics/biden-charlamagne-tha-god-you-aint-black/index.html

Yeah, you definitely looked into it. Classic pot calling the kettle black.

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u/lurker_cant_comment Sep 27 '22

Lol I just read this, you don't get that Biden was trying to say that his policies are far more appealing to the black community than Trump's policies are, and that, at that point in time, black people would already be aware of the difference?

Or you think that's actually racist?

It was even more or less true: the article linked a poll showing Biden lead Trump in support among black voters by 81% to 3%.

You're highlighting exactly what I was saying.

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u/retirement4DILFs Sep 27 '22

Last sentence of my comment

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u/Eatingfarts Sep 23 '22

Yeah, black people probably don’t know what’s best for them. Best to give their votes the white folk who know better.

I think I just puked my pants typing that.

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u/i_will_let_you_know Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Not discussing this specific case, but there are a lot of people who vote against their own interest. That's kinda the main idea of /r/LeopardsAteMyFace.

But outside of reddit, you will have gay people voting for anti-gay candidates, Mexican people voting for anti-Mexican candidates, etc.

People don't always vote for what's best for them, because most voters don't do due diligence, and a lot of people don't even really think about or understand what their vote means. Or they only care about a single issue despite the consequences of their chosen candidates' other positions.

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u/BR0STRADAMUS Sep 25 '22

Most people are single issue voters. Someone's sexuality or ethnicity doesn't inherently define their ethics or point of view.

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u/i_will_let_you_know Oct 15 '22

Yes, but if you're voting for someone who would literally strip you of your human rights instead of a person who won't, you're voting against your own best interests. Obviously. Any other single issue that doesn't affect you can't possibly top that.

It doesn't matter if you hate gun control if voting for it means you would be executed by the government for being trans. The former does not outweigh the latter.

And generally single issue voting is unwise outside of those kinds of extreme scenarios.

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u/Lo-Ping Sep 23 '22 Helpful

I'd just like to point out that if you didn't vote for Biden, then you ain't black.

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u/GrindsetMindset Sep 23 '22

Yay, I can be transracial now. Wassup my neighbors

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u/Upbeat_Reception_768 Sep 23 '22

Lol. "If you don't vote for me, you aren't black!" - Democrat

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u/easeMachine Sep 23 '22

Biden: 'If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black'

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/22/politics/biden-charlamagne-tha-god-you-aint-black/index.html

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u/gabegush Sep 23 '22

Very ironic you say that when you look at how some libs treat black people who don't think the way rich white libs tell them to

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u/xApolloh Sep 23 '22

“If you don’t know whether you’re voting for me or trump, you’re not black” -Joe Biden

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

Lmao that was funny as hell.

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u/ChocolateBunnyButt Sep 23 '22

It’s not that they’re brainwashed. Black people started voting democrat in the 1930’s, while democrats obviously still super racist. It has nothing to do with brainwashing. Democrats just are willing to give federal money to poor, which buys votes. And do you a long history of racism and culture wars, black people are extremely improvised in america. Giving them money is an effective way to buy their vote, in general.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

Do you think maybe black voters want what's best for the country and their vote isn't bought?

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u/SohndesRheins Sep 23 '22

Black voters want the same thing that all voters want, what is best for themselves.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

Hopefully you are voting for both.

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u/RexInvictus787 Sep 23 '22

In any demographic, the percentage of people that would vote what’s best for the country over something that directly benefited them (assume in this hypothetical those two things are at odds) would be negligible.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

I never said they were at odds. I'm sorry if I implied that.

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u/RexInvictus787 Sep 23 '22

You didn’t, but never mind.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

The guy I'm responding to is making it seem like most black voters are like democrats give us more money, so there you go. I'm sure they have more reasons than that for voting like I assume most voters do. It's going to, black voters just want more welfare which is not good.

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u/jffnc13 Sep 23 '22

Yeah, imagine if a Democrat politician said that if you don’t vote for him you ain’t black. That shit can only come from a Republican’s mouth.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

A Republican wouldn't say that because hardly any black people vote Republican. Just say Biden said that and why you have an issue with it.

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u/SohndesRheins Sep 23 '22

Actually 100% of black voters voted for Joe Biden, anyone who didn't vote for Uncle Joe isn't black, according to him at least.

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

My wife is black and she agreed with Biden on that, lmao!

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u/TheUnluckyBard Sep 23 '22

And the popular response for why so many black people are democrats is "They're brainwashed." You don't think calling the 96% of black voters who voted for Biden brainwashed is racist? No actually, we're protecting them!

Boy, if only we had a word to describe the belief that all members of a specific ethnic group were inherently dumb and easily manipulated due to the circumstances of their biology. It sure would be nice to have a word for that kind of belief.

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u/retirement4DILFs Sep 23 '22

Never heard that one before

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u/philsubby Sep 23 '22

All my family is conservative.