r/WhitePeopleTwitter Sep 24 '22

ACAB

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u/Super_Drewper Sep 24 '22

WHO. THE. FUCK. PARKS ON TRAIN TRACKS?!?! What was the thought process? I’m utterly confused by that. That cop is guilty of willful negligence at least! 🤬

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u/bubbaliciouswasmyfav Sep 24 '22

To kill the person in the car "accidently"

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

No, I watched the video, I’m an EMT firefighter of years, my dad even longer, they got tunneled vision from the looks of it, what happened was completely stupid, but tunnel vision is dangerous to everyone, if you look you’ll see the officer is standing on the tracks when they handcuff the suspect, and when the horns go off they don’t even realize it’s a concern until it’s risky to make a choice either way

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u/ascendinspire Sep 25 '22

I don't understand. You mean they couldn't see the tracks? They couldn't see the train? Tunnel Vision? Blind except for what is in immediate vicinity of maybe 5 ft?

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Tunnel vision is this thing where you get to focused on what you deem to be the immediate threat or problem and you focus only on that, it’s easy to have happen to anyone, the problem is that because of It you don’t pay attention to other actual threats, like a train, it’s dangerous. Training helps, but it still happens

Edit: to clarify, it’s kind of like breathing, your aware of it but you don’t think about it because your doing things. They probably had some innate understanding that the tracks were there but didn’t think about it until something snapped them to it

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u/ascendinspire Sep 25 '22

Ok thanks.

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

No problem, I hope that made sense

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u/GetTheSpermsOut Sep 25 '22

it still doesn’t excuse the behavior, tunnel vision isn’t an acceptable excuse for negligence. A regular citizen couldn’t say this in court, they would get laughed at and found guilty.

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u/Ac0usticKitty Sep 26 '22

Exactly. And part of being a cop is being vigilant/aware of your surroundings. Its literally part of the job description.

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u/KiraLonely Sep 26 '22

This. It explains why this happened, but doesn't excuse the behavior. The blame still falls on not only the man himself but the system, one, because fucking ACAB for sure, but two, because if he wasn't trained to be more vigilant, that can be an area of focus regarding issues like this.

(Hell, I've seen clips of police doing tunnel vision where they start arresting the wrong people and not listening when the person who called them is going "YO YO NO THAT'S NOT THEM, THAT'S THE STORE OWNERS-" Major not an excuse for fucking bullshit, but it is a subject where this should probably be trained for better. If you're emergency services, you are servicing emergency situations. You need to be trained and recognize when you start having tunnel vision on an issue and help do what you can to get out of it, or try to limit how it may affect a situation, at the goddamn very least.)

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u/Ac0usticKitty Sep 26 '22

Yes. I really hope the woman files a lawsuit. If the man can't simply arrest a person without putting them IN FRONT OF A TRAIN, there's a serious issue.

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u/KiraLonely Sep 26 '22

To be fair, I do think mentioning tunnel vision can be useful, albeit it never excuses behavior. Anyone in that situation needs to be aware of what tunnel vision is and have been trained to avoid it occuring, at the very fucking least. (emphasis on the least)

Also ACAB to be clear. Just, like, def not an excuse, just helps explain how this came about/the phenomena itself.

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u/LilyAmberSkies Sep 25 '22

That’s a convenient excuse for an idiot to park a vehicle on train tracks, which is always dangerous.

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u/No_Assist2955 Sep 25 '22

In other word they can't walk and chew gum at the same time? What about soldiers? Fire men get so focused on the flames they watch a home burn down? Doctors preforming a life saving heart surgery get distracted by the blood? I could go on forever with this reasoning. Definitely fire this imbecile. Tunnel vision, good one.

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u/unreliablememory Sep 25 '22

I. Don't. Care.

They parked on fucking railroad tracks. The absolute best thing to you could possibly say about them is that they're inexcusably incompetent, fire them and hope to settle the well-deserved lawsuit.

Tunnelvision. That's rich.

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

Tunnel vision is why they parked on the tracks in the first place, and why the officer was clearly on the tracks during the arrest instead of relocating the vehicle. You clearly don’t understand the effects of a high stress situation when it comes down to the wire. Yes it shouldn’t have happened and yes it was incredibly stupid, but don’t attempt to act like it was a willful attempt at harming the suspect

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u/unreliablememory Sep 25 '22

Former television News photographer, from '79 into the '90's. Licensed psychotherapist now. Yes, I do. Was it willful? No. Are they completely responsible? Yes.

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u/WumpusFails Sep 25 '22

I'm a husband. Don't want to say how many times I've missed something.

Just this morning, the paper towel holder wasn't in its usual place. I went around the kitchen, dining room, and living room looking for it.

It was on the counter about 10 inches away from its usual place.

Do not question the power of obliviousness.

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u/OptimalAd3856 Sep 25 '22

"tunnel vision" is no excuse when you are allegedly there to protect and serve

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u/JockBbcBoy Sep 25 '22

The Robb Elementary School shooting taught us police do not have to protect or serve. They can just exist.

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u/OptimalAd3856 Sep 25 '22

That's the point

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u/KiraLonely Sep 26 '22

Oh they are there to protect and serve. Just not us. It's the law they protect and serve. Especially property damage. They don't have to give a rat's ass about human life at all, it's way way less important to them than property and property damage. Unless they're the ones doing the property damage. That's okay, then. 🙄

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u/Old_Cockroach_2993 Sep 25 '22

According to the courts they are not there to serve and protect.

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u/gbushprogs Sep 25 '22

They are there to co-conspire and commit crimes against the people in an organized fashion. On the taxpayer's dime.

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

It’s not an excuse, it’s what happened, by the point they realized that the train was an imminent threat it was to late for any proper course of action, it’s negligence, not attempted murder

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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 Sep 25 '22

Vehicular manslaughter is not attempted murder (usually) but the guilty person goes away for a long time just the same.

There is a difference between negligence & with intent, but there's still prison time for both.

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u/OptimalAd3856 Sep 25 '22

If negligence results in death who decides the difference? They are trained professionals these types of things should not be happening.

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

They shouldn’t, but it did, and I’m sure it wasn’t intentional. Yeah, this persons gonna have one hell of a lawsuit on there hands, but it’s not brutality and it’s not attempted murder. It’s an honest error that resulted in the severe injury of a detained individual

Edit: that and there’s big difference between negligence homicide and attempted homicide

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u/Spiritual_Ad7831 Sep 25 '22

More manslaughter than anything.

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u/LilyAmberSkies Sep 25 '22

“Honest error”. What a poor choice of words.

Unconscionable negligence is more appropriate.

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

Honest error as in no feelings of malicious we’re had

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u/SpeakerFamous Sep 25 '22

Then you know tunnel vision isn’t really a reliable excuse in terms of the law.

Others have and will continue to get charged for the actions they do or don’t take while tunnel visioning

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

I’m not saying they didn’t do anything that isn’t a chargeable offense, but it isn’t attempted murder

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u/SpeakerFamous Sep 25 '22

I’d be surprised if the charge ends up being attempted murder tbh but even given the full context I’m not sure what else the average person would call this.

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u/Linguist-of-cunning Sep 25 '22

The bodycam footage showed an officer making a move to try saving her and then deciding not to. I'm not a lawyer, but if she had died it could be argued that was mens rea for homicide.

Given that police have a duty of care for the people they arrest and she would not have been on those tracks except for their negligent behavior: It actually could qualify as attempted murder.

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u/Zueter Sep 25 '22

I agree with you. It's horrible, but it's a horrible mistake.

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u/Crazie_Robie Sep 25 '22

Yeah, I literally immediately called my previously mentioned dad and went “oh man, someone fucked up bad, check this out” we both had the same conclusion

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u/clangan524 Sep 25 '22

WHO. THE. FUCK. PARKS ON TRAIN TRACKS?!?!

People Arrogant cops who aren't used to dealing with the consequences of their actions and think they're invulnerable and incapable of harm.

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u/SweatyElbowJuice Sep 25 '22

A sociopathic cop who never faces consequences and wanted to scare his arrest ‘for the lulz’

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u/Ruslan124 Sep 24 '22

If the flashing lights are on, he is permitted to park anywhere. It was the responsibility of the train driver to avoid the car. /S

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u/thekronicle Sep 25 '22

Would not surprise me if that was the cops actual line of thinking...

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u/Its_SubjectA1 Sep 25 '22

The lights weren’t on

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u/thekronicle Sep 25 '22

just rewatched the video in a different sub... had to come back and let you know that his lights WERE in fact, ON! So yeah.

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u/Its_SubjectA1 Sep 25 '22

Oh I thought they weren’t. Well then he is innocent /s

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u/thekronicle Sep 25 '22

Just making a joke. It's okay buddy.

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u/Its_SubjectA1 Sep 25 '22

I know that you are I’m just saying he doesn’t even have that excuse

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u/Sgt_Fox Sep 25 '22

Thinks a train can brake like a car...so he can arrest the driver for "aggravated assault" (telling them to get off the track)

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u/Top_Application146 Sep 24 '22

What about a train?

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u/thekyledavid Sep 25 '22

Unless the car broke down and he was unable to move it off the tracks, that should be attempted murder at the least

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u/ostiniatoze Sep 25 '22

Even so he could have gotten the woman out of the car

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u/thekyledavid Sep 25 '22

Yeah, but if that was the case, I feel like a good lawyer could talk that down to negligence

If he knowingly parked on the tracks and got out, that should be attempted murder

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u/subject_deleted Sep 25 '22

Attempted murder. Nothing less. There isn't a single reason in the entire fucking universe that a cop should ever be parking his cruiser on the tracks with a suspect inside. Not a single one except for an attempt to kill the suspect.

Fuck this pig. I hope they convict him and throw him in general still in his uniform.

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u/Waris-Tx Sep 25 '22

They were trying to make her confess her crimes or else. Arrest that cop not paid leave

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u/Kipguy Sep 25 '22

I seen the video obvious intent, sick

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u/Fuze_KapkanMain Sep 25 '22

Trains are unpredictable you never know when they will show up

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u/toddspremiumbacon Sep 25 '22

Someone trying to just do their job. Murder folks they dislike.

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u/locustzed Sep 25 '22

"I'm a cop. Laws, even laws of physics don't apply to me."

-This cop probably.

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u/Away-Tea-8634 Sep 25 '22

Literally Count Olaf in the SoUE movie

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u/BabousCobwebBowl Sep 24 '22

And the officer just stood there instead of trying to get her out. Literal dip shits

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u/reddit-sucks-ass_ Sep 25 '22

Cowards.

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u/zackaddict1 Sep 25 '22

“Heros” you mean.

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u/stymieraytoo Sep 25 '22

no, cowards.

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u/AcceptMeGodDamnIT Sep 24 '22

That’s literally from A Series of Unfortunate Events. Spoiler alert, the guy who did it was the villain

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u/Batman-is-cool-99- Sep 25 '22

Count olaf you bastard

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u/Optimusskyler Sep 25 '22

One.

There is only one Olaf in that film

There. I counted Olaf.

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u/Batman-is-cool-99- Sep 25 '22

Now count the olafs in the books

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u/Optimusskyler Sep 25 '22

It's been a long, long, long time since I read the books.

...but I believe it's still just one? I know another villain joined him eventually (isn't the name "Esme Squalor" or something along those lines?) but it's still just one Olaf.

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u/Able_Carry9153 Sep 25 '22

Now count count the olafs in the Netflix TV series

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u/Optimusskyler Sep 25 '22

Haven't finished watching that yet. If I ever do get around to it (eh, maybe) and I remember this, I'll come back and let you know.

...but so far, I'm pretty sure it's still just one.

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u/Able_Carry9153 Sep 25 '22

I really enjoyed it (far more than the original movie, although some NPH simpery may play into that)

I need to get around to reading the books, despite having all of them (I think in both paperback and hardback, for that matter)

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u/glandgames Sep 24 '22

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO THE COP.

This will have to spawn riots and an entire social movement for ANY justice to happen. Which it will not.

Cops don't get in trouble. Ftp.

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u/avengerintraining Sep 25 '22

First, all media in unison has to blast it nationwide for 100 hours straight. Otherwise it’s just another day.

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u/Zealousideal-Emu5486 Sep 24 '22

The video is sickening

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u/kingdazy Sep 24 '22

Don't worry, he's on paid leave. /s

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u/Network57 Sep 24 '22

Where's the sarcasm?

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/colorado-patrol-car-train-crash/73-ca644f0b-f0dc-44ac-b78d-0ab5ad5a3460

The Platteville officer was placed on paid leave during the investigation.

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u/kingdazy Sep 24 '22

Right here:

Don't worry

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u/Speculater Sep 24 '22

I'll bet $100 to anyone he doesn't get charged and gets let off and continues to be a cop.

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u/notcrappyofexplainer Sep 25 '22

And paid extra for PTSD.

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u/Ragnarok314159 Sep 25 '22

And the woman is charged later in with resisting arrest and running from the police as she is ejected from the vehicle.

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u/LilyAmberSkies Sep 25 '22

And the train gets charged with aiding and abetting a fugitive.

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u/Tighesofly Sep 25 '22

Well she may have been pregnant and after the crash she’s not….sounds like a felony ma’am.

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u/mrlt10 Sep 24 '22

I think any job it’s reasonable to place the person on paid leave until a formal investigation has made its conclusions backed by evidence. Luckily, Colorado is the only jurisdiction to have eliminated qualified immunity. So it’s the only state in the nation where there’s a chance that cop might be held accountable. Rip Elijah McClain and others whose tragic sacrifices made that possible.

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u/DudeWhoWrites2 Sep 25 '22

I think any job it’s reasonable to place the person on paid leave until a formal investigation has made its conclusions backed by evidence.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong. But, as a blue collar worker, I'm seeing an inequity. In my line of worker if you're suspected of fuckery, you're put on unpaid leave and 9/10 times fired just for being a problem.

So, maybe my take is that this should extend to all industries.

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u/SimplyBilly Sep 25 '22

I mean the reverse should be applied right? You should be fighting for a general law that you should be placed on paid leave until proven guilty right?

Your basically saying “I don’t get that so they shouldn’t either”

Also if I misunderstood whether you were for or against, didn’t mean to but I wasn’t sure.

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u/DudeWhoWrites2 Sep 25 '22

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was thinking as I was typing. The final conclusion I came to is that if it's applied to certain industries, we should all have that same right.

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u/ReturnOfFrank Sep 25 '22

It should be exactly reversed. The average worker deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Cops are in a position of public trust and given a great deal of authority and leeway. A single hint of impropriety or incompetence should have them black listed and out on their ass.

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u/NecroCorey Sep 25 '22

The thing you said is completely unrealistic though. We could also be fighting for mandatory pet dragons, and free massages on breaks. Or like. Getting breaks in general.

Its a lot easier to fuck someone over in this country than it is to get basic human rights. It's pretty easy to gravitate towards a negative outcome that seems more realistic when nothing positive ever happens.

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u/mrlt10 Sep 25 '22

Why is it unrealistic. That’s absurd to compare it to pet dragons. I’m not saying to be an ass or as an insult but it sounds like you are brainwashed by the corporate BS are system feeds the population.

You could easily have a law that says once you’ve been with a company for over 5 years, it shows you’re a decent enough employee tbat termination should only be for-cause. And until that cause is formally proven, say in arbitration, then if that employee is taken off their duties it is a paid leave until the cause of the termination is proven.

A lot of other industrialized wealthy nations have versions of that. Here in the US it’s only for industries where the individual employees have that type of bargaining power. And because big business has done such a good job breaking up unions it’s robbed that bargaining power from a lot of blue collar employees.

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u/mrlt10 Sep 25 '22

I 100% agree. I think the whole employment-at-will/right-to-work movement is big business BS designed to exploit workers with less bargaining power(now that they dismantled most unions).

I don’t care if you’re a janitor, dishwasher, or what the job is; once you dedicate a significant portion of your life to that business they at least owe you the dignity of being fired only for a legit reason that they can document and prove. And until they formally prove it paid leave is the answer.

The worst are the firings just before the employee’s retirement package vests just so they can get them off the payroll and avoid paying the retirement benefits that person has worked years, often times decades to acquire. That shit is criminal in my opinion.

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u/OnThe_Spectrum Sep 25 '22

Join a fucking union. We get paid more with better benefits.

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u/DudeWhoWrites2 Sep 25 '22

You just helped me realize I'd be included under the teamsters union. Am going to have to explore this more.

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u/Tricky-Home-7194 Sep 24 '22

Disagree on part of what you said. I’m a civil rights attorney. While qualified immunity is a bitch, it can be overcome, and at least in the 6th circuit (which is very conservative) where I’m at, I think that this would get past qualified immunity.

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u/mrlt10 Sep 24 '22

It may get past circuit courts but given this supreme court’s jurisprudence on qualified immunity I think the state would stand a good chance of prevailing on appeal. The amount of outs they provide officers is amazing and consistently expanding.

No prior cases of a squad car being parked on train tracks with suspect in back then hit by train and officer found to have violated suspect’s constitutional rights—> qualified immunity applies. Officer did not realize he was parked on tracks—> qualified immunity applies. I just don’t have any faith in this S Court reaching the logical outcome you or I see as obvious, which is why I’m thankful it happened in Colorado.

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u/Tricky-Home-7194 Sep 25 '22

Fair point. Still disagree based on Kingsley standard and my experience in litigating these cases. I’d take the case though. But good discussion.

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u/Ragnarok314159 Sep 25 '22

SCOTUS doesn’t care about Stare Decisis, or any other legal standard.

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u/Tricky-Home-7194 Sep 25 '22

I get that, and you’re probably right about the current Court. However, this case wouldn’t get that far. It’d likely settle out after discovery and/or dispositive motion practice. Doubt it would even get to appellate/circuit court.

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u/mrlt10 Sep 25 '22

I trust your take from a practitioners standpoint. You’re probably right, from what I’ve seen the facts are pretty plaintiff friendly.

But from an academic standpoint I feel like this is one of those cases I could see the court granting cert and using to sent an even more expansive precedent for when qualified immunity applies. Some ridiculous standard that sounds 1/2 reasonable when you say it in isolation but in practice is completely absurd and only enables wrong doing.

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u/Tricky-Home-7194 Sep 25 '22

Yeah you are right, they could. Kingsley was a 2016 case I believe. And that case has changed the landscape for ‘Pretrial detainees’ as opposed to people serving sentences already, which is the farmer v Brennan standard under 8th amd. Kingsley said that the standard is more, and I may be wrong on exact wording here, like gross negligence to reckless, as opposed to reckless to intentional. Current court could look for a way to change that ruling. Plus, Kingsley dealt with excessive force for Pretrial detainees, and half the circuits have applied it to all deliberate indifference cases. But I know for a fact that issue will be before SCOTUS soon, because I just argued, and lost, a case dealing with the Kingsley standard. Court is packed right now and defense counsel are pouncing right now. I doubt I would risk taking a case to SCOTUS at all from a plaintiff perspective.

This case is sort of unique but not really. Now, one could argue that this is an excessive force case, due to conditions of confinement, but I would argue it is just a deliberate indifference conditions of confinement, and failure to protect, and failure to intervene. She was in cuffs, so was detained. And kind of like it’s obvious not to leave someone in a restraint chair in a dangerous way, so too should they know not to park a car on railroad tracks. I’ve dealt with other cases where officers leave detainees in back seat and they are drunk and high and then die of positional asphyxiation. If the officer knows the detainee is at risk of harm and fails to abate that risk, you can get past qualified immunity. SCOTUS can make the standard more difficult for plaintiffs, but they cannot invade questions of fact for the jury. Like how obvious it is not to park a car on railroad tracks with someone who is trapped in that car and cannot get out.

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u/Joegannonlct Sep 25 '22

Paid leave is just a vacation

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u/toddspremiumbacon Sep 25 '22

Called paid vaca….I’m tired people calling paid leave, it’s not

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u/drew1010101 Sep 24 '22

He is actually on paid leave, no /s at all

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u/thatHecklerOverThere Sep 24 '22

What manner of Rocky and Bullwinkle bullshit is this? Fuck firing, where are the attempted murder charges?

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u/bubbaliciouswasmyfav Sep 24 '22

This is attempted murder. Cop should be arrested

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u/HAMmerPower1 Sep 24 '22

How many people can say that any of the smartest kids they went to High School with went on to become a police officer?

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u/Independent_Leather3 Sep 25 '22

If by smartest you mean dumbest

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u/Bubbly-Kitty-2425 Sep 24 '22

He freaking saw the train coming, the train honked he had time to get person out or move his car forward or backwards. Ya know who else is screwed that poor conductor has to live with the guilt because he couldn’t stop train and a dumb cop left a car on tracks!

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u/teal_appeal Sep 25 '22

It’s worse- they were so negligent they didn’t even remember she was in the vehicle until after the impact. The video shows them asking each other “Was she in there?” after the train hit the car. They probably didn’t have time to get to the car and either get it off the tracks or get her out since they weren’t in the car when they realized the train was coming, but they didn’t even think to try because they apparently have no object permanence.

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u/Koddia Sep 25 '22

Someone commented that she even saw the train coming like 30 seconds before the cops did and tried to get their attention. Imagine how fucked up this is

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u/heartofdawn Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

It's not just her physical injuries, the mental and emotional trauma she suffered is going to be massive

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u/Tairaa90 Sep 25 '22

Oh fuck yeah. Big time. This is probably going to be the cause of a lot of anxiety and sleeplessness for a long time to come.

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u/snarfalarkus42069 Sep 24 '22

Evil fucking cops. God I just hate cops so much.

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u/Taconinja05 Sep 24 '22

Somethings off about this. They tried to murder this woman

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u/DianneQuinn Sep 25 '22

Canadian here. Our Ontario and BC cops, especially Ontario, historically (and by historically I mean still do it) take First Nations men and women into their cars, drive them to fuckoff nowhere, and dump them off. In the middle of winter. Cops basically murdering people is not uncommon.

And yes. ACAB.

Edit: Forgot to mention Saskatchewan's infamous "starlight tours".

https://allthatsinteresting.com/starlight-tours

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u/AnonBubblyBowels Sep 25 '22

Holy shit, that was grim

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u/Sam-buca_I_Am Sep 25 '22

Indigenous peoples in Canada have a lot of grim stories and grim experiences. It's honestly mind-blowing; the more you dig and the more questions you ask, the worse it gets. It's dizzying.

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u/piday98 Sep 25 '22

What's ACAB mean?

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u/onionpirates Sep 25 '22

All cops are bastards

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u/DemosthenesOG Sep 25 '22

So, this is the second time on Reddit I've seen someone claim starlight tours have routinely been conducted outside of the Saskatoon police force. To be clear, indigenous people in Canada are not treated equally by the justice system, and abuses are absolutely common.

But I can not find any evidence that starlight tours happened with any regularity (read: at all that I could find) outside of that police force. When you search starlight tours ontario or indigenous freezing deaths Ontario, only results for the Saskatoon murders come up. Some of those articles insinuate that this practice is known all over Canada, but again provide no sources.

The starlight tours were particularly disturbing, and while there's lots to hate about the way police treat indigenous people, I don't think it's correct to state with such authority that its a Canada wide practice when it does not seem to be. It seems to be the sick hazing ritual of one fucked up police department.

If you can provide any sources that this happened outside Saskatoon with any kind of regularity I'll be happy to be corrected. Again, I am in no way defending police treatment of indigenous people in Canada, but the truth is important.

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u/DianneQuinn Sep 25 '22

https://www.inclusivecanada.org/post/starlight-tours

I appreciate your reasoned response and questions, and I absolutely agree. I posted a link that itself has resources linked in it. As to BC; I may be absolutely incorrect. I thought I recalled Indigenous men being dumped by cops in both 100 Mile House and Ft. St. John, with the reports coming out as this having happened in recent times when the Highway of Tears was finally brought to slightly more public light. And unfortunately we all know what the police were like in the years leadkng up to Pickton's arrest. Though maybe not; I lived in BC at that time so it may have not been as talked about in other areas of the country. Ontario, on the other hand, is anecdotal; having been forced to spend my youth in Manitoba (blech, personal opinion only but blech) many of the FN men and women my parents met spoke frankly of their relatives or friends in Ontario being scared of the cops there and the "night drives" they could be taken on. Having lived on both coasts (NS now) and in central Canada, I can say that one unifying feature in Canada is the terrible treatment the FN people suffer or have suffered across the country. I appreciate your response and, to be honest, there is nothing I would like more than to be absolutely proven wrong about "night tours" being multi-provincial. It would mean less hate, and god knows we have enough in this country.

Edit: if you feel like being depressed, you can also look up Gilbert Paul Jordan and how lax the cops were in dealing with his crimes. Pickton wasn't BC's first serial killer who preyed on FN women. :(

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u/MrFarenheit299792458 Sep 25 '22

Thanks, I hate it

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

That’s what cops are allowed to do.

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u/Redrump1221 Sep 25 '22

They have no duty to serve or protect and have the right to kill/mame with immunity.

Dissolve the police union and prosecute these pieces of shit.

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u/unlicensed_orifice Sep 25 '22

Can anyone with legal experience tell me the penalty if a civilian did this to someone? Trains don't exactly sneak up on people so I'd find it hard to believe the cop just didn't notice there was a multiple ton machine getting closer.

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u/OGBrngBakPgBack Sep 24 '22

Nothin to see here... Just your usual protecting & serving 🤷🏾

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u/oman54 Sep 25 '22

That honestly sounds like attempted murder

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u/Dkaiser1919 Sep 24 '22

Fuck the police

Seriously fuck them

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u/snarfalarkus42069 Sep 24 '22

Im starting to see 60+ year old relatives straight up hate the police. In our small rural town they've become Trumps would-be gestapo, targetting anyone with democratic/biden signs, car stickers etc.

Do they do anything about the truck with 4 trump flags rolling coal into the lungs of toddlers? Nope they love that shit.

Hurtling into something really bad over here

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u/NecroCorey Sep 25 '22

Any sane person should fear the police right now. Especially if you're not white.

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u/snarfalarkus42069 Sep 25 '22

Well that's the thing, we're whitey mc whiterson over here. This is 60 yo WASPs hating the cops man it's insane.

These cops are all just trump or religious nazis. I know a dude my age who became a cop - he was a 4chan incel in highscool.

Imagine that fucking guy pulling over your daughter or a female friend or family member. It genuinely makes me seethe that the powers that be give so much authority and power to a complete fucking loser who took like no school for it.

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u/Ok_Committee_8069 Sep 25 '22

religious nazis

The Iranians are trying out a solution right now...

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u/Saltyrise51 Sep 25 '22

Seriously fuck them? I’m not into beastieality dude.

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u/vash0125 Sep 25 '22

The only way for any Cop to be held accountable is for there to be huge public outcry.

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u/Tarhiel_flight Sep 24 '22

Yeah I watched this yesterday, I’m sure the cops will get promoted

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u/Saltyrise51 Sep 25 '22

That’s thinking to small. Get rid of qualified immunity would be better

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u/Flynn3698 Sep 24 '22

He should serve congruent sentences for attempted murder of the woman and everyone on the train! He didn't know it wouldn't have derailed. Also that might not be how it works, but fuck him.

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u/SpiritAnimal_ Sep 25 '22

Attempted murder, nothing more, nothing less.

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u/ParsnipPizza2 Sep 25 '22

Uh... So that's fucking attempted murder, right???

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u/SharpPixels08 Sep 25 '22

I get an eye for an eye makes the world go blind and whatever but damm I would so just stop in front of a train if I was that cops Uber driver.

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u/mishymishy69 Sep 25 '22

They need to arrest him and I hope this poor woman is a millionaire after this

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u/HappyCynic24 Sep 25 '22

Was she gay or a minority? If so the cop will probably be promoted in this day and age, and they’ll just call it a minor accident.

I hate them so much

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u/Tasty-Machine5340 Sep 25 '22

How is this not attempted murder? In what scenario is PARKING on the tracks justified?

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u/wrenchlife328 Sep 25 '22

Attempted murders means you had intent to murder.

Judging by the video, it'd be silly to say the police officer purposely set up this scenario to get this person killed.

Criminal negligence for sure, attempted murder though? No way.

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u/LVII Sep 25 '22

Unless some new explanation comes out, what else could it be? Mental disability? If so, they shouldn't be a cop.

Barring that, extreme negligence or else attempted murder.

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u/Ruslan124 Sep 24 '22

Clearly qualified immunity applies. There is no previous precedence saying you cannot leave a car on a rail track with a prisoner inside. If it is not clearly established the cop must be awarded qualified immunity. /s

Although I am being sarcastic I would not be shocked if that is how this plays out.

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u/Tricky-Home-7194 Sep 24 '22

Disagree. Deliberate indifference, Pretrial detainee, at least in 6th circuit, this should get past qualified immunity. Recklessness.

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u/el_pinata Sep 25 '22

Officer Snideley Whiplash over here tying women to goddamn railroad tracks. Fuck cops.

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u/Character_Reward2734 Sep 25 '22

One thing worth mentioning regardless of what happens to the cop who did this epically stupid thing, the taxpayers of Colorado will be paying the eventual lawsuit or settlement. There needs to be better screening and training of cops to prevent dumb shits from joining. Unfortunately this lawsuit will further put pressure on budgets

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u/notha_leon Sep 25 '22

We will suspend you with pay, just lay low while the whole thing is forgotten.

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u/MrPenguinPants9 Sep 25 '22

I saw the video on r/IdiotsInCars , but I didn't know there was someone inside. Jesus fuck

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u/Lch207560 Sep 25 '22

Did she do something dangerous?

Because if he was afraid of her he really had no choice.

I can't believe I have to include this but /s

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u/AtoriasDarkwalker999 Sep 25 '22

The Police Department: “Best I can do you for is one week of suspension.”

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u/That1Guy80903 Sep 25 '22

"After investigating ourselves, we found that even with video evidence to prove we fucked up that we actually did nothing wrong. She was resisting arrest and not obeying lawful orders".

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u/steveos1011 Sep 25 '22

She's going to be a multi millionaire.

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u/MissTakenID Sep 25 '22

So they just released video footage, apparently it was a road rage incident, they cuffed her in the cruiser (which for some unknown reason, was parked on the tracks) and left her there while they searched her truck. She saw the train coming, and couldn't get their attention. By the time the officers heard the train horn and realized what was happening, it was too late.

If this is what really occurred, the officers were grossly negligent at best. I'm sure she will have all the money she needs to live her life, but I doubt it will be a comfortable one :(

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u/toddspremiumbacon Sep 25 '22

Oh yea, it was too late for him to crack open a beer and enjoy it in a lawn chair, but we all got to see he had the time to casually walk off out of the way.

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u/MissTakenID Sep 25 '22

Yeah, I would not be surprised if there were more to it than that. Either way, those guys shouldn't be cops anymore, they completely failed the Protect and Serve on every level. Poor woman :(

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u/vbbk Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

He'll get a 30 day suspension with pay and desk duty for a few months. If she had been killed maybe he'd be fired, but he'd get a job in another town's department and be a negligent douchebag there too.

Update: MF'er got paid leave. Free vacation for almost killing someone. Smh.

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u/XCrimsonMelodyx Sep 25 '22

I wonder if he’ll get in trouble if the company sues for the damages to the train. Because clearly that’s the only thing they would care about in this scenario. Disgusting.

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u/Uulugus Sep 25 '22

Yeah just wait till you guys hear about the Christian Glass murder. Fuck cops.

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u/vanillasickle Sep 25 '22

That sounds like some shit lex Luthor would do bro

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u/FunnyAnimalPerson Sep 25 '22

A-TRAIN NO THERE NOT DATING!

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u/cd_R_Burke Sep 25 '22

Won't happen they will find a way to blame the suspect and make em pay for the cruiser and any other damage. D.A won't prosecute the police. The blue line thugs will protect them and the union. Police have unlimited powers to do as they please.

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u/Realistic_Box_9172 Sep 25 '22

Nothing will happen to the cop. Fuck cops

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u/FuntimeLuke0531 Sep 25 '22

Cops can get away with literally anything 😭💀

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u/TheGutlessOne Sep 25 '22

This gives off very much so Lemony Snicketts series of unfortunate events where he “accidentally” parks on the train tracks to get snacks at the gas station.

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u/pixiedoo22 Sep 25 '22

I never understood the thinking behind how cops park their cars while on duty or at a situation. Many times they are blocking traffic and causing more of a dilemma. Get the hell out of the way and let cars past.

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u/Studio_Ambitious Sep 24 '22

I have a feeling she's about to get paid

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u/Speculater Sep 24 '22

She's probably brain dead...

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u/SithDraven Sep 25 '22

Instead of arresting the cop how about we lock him in a car and leave it parked on some train tracks?

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u/DiceMadeOfCheese Sep 25 '22

Did he twirl his fucking moustache afterwards the evil bastard

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u/Prestigious-Sea-8190 Sep 25 '22

If the victim is white he will be punished, otherwise it will probably be overlooked and buried.

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u/ResurgentOcelot Sep 25 '22

FFS please? Can we please discipline/correct/remediate every offical abuser.

The law in this country suffers so much corruption, it’s seriously going to take us all down.

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u/ARS8birds Sep 25 '22

That’s some evil villain mustache twirling shit

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u/Senior-Respect6493 Sep 25 '22

That is literally what villains did in movies from 1910

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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb Sep 25 '22

Downvote because of shitty title.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

In what world is it ok to take a specific example and assume the conclusion olds true for all?? ACAB, really ?

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u/LaserLovingLoser Sep 25 '22

Yes. ACAB. In this day and age, when the majority of cops are awful, racist people who are only cops so that they can take out their anger and frustrations on minorities, if you still are a cop or advocate for them, you are just as bad.

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u/sottedlayabout Sep 25 '22

There’s thousands of examples.

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u/ArkamaZ Sep 25 '22

How is this involuntary?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

I think it’s gross incompetence and frankly… absurd, but listening to the officers voice in the radio cal after I don’t think they MEANT to have the train hit the patrol car with the woman in it… they’re fucking stupid, not necessarily malicious … make sense?

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u/PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS Sep 25 '22

Dumber than a 2 year old? This is on par with throwing someone in a fire and claiming that you sincerely did not know that fire was hot.

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u/Historical-Weird7317 Sep 25 '22

But, but, but, that would mean that they had to admit to doing something wrong…

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u/Harper_1482 Sep 25 '22

Bullshit. It was a female cop.. there’s video dumb fuck

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u/WarriorsDawn Sep 25 '22

I see some similarities to this and the Starlight Tours from a couple decades ago

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u/Bucksin06 Sep 25 '22

Protecting the public

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u/cigarmanpa Sep 25 '22

The best we can do is paid suspension

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u/mrf1 Sep 25 '22

this is what happens when you hire cops with IQs under 100.