r/WhitePeopleTwitter Sep 25 '22

This preacher is woke

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u/motosandguns Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Unitarian Universalist…?

Def not your standard Christian/Jewish/Muslim sect.

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u/ususetq Sep 25 '22

I don't have much experience with other UU churches but I don't think most of us (Unitarians) believe in either hell or heaven so it would be out of place. UU preachers would say something more along lines "we believe all sexualities and gender identities are sacred and worthy of respect".

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u/Immediate_Wealth616 Sep 25 '22

I heard this from my Christian cousin. A proud Christian who is goes to church like every other day.

“Hate is bad “ Moments later “Gay people are evil people and are going to hell.I don’t want my child turning gay “

Pretty much saying hate to gays and teaching her child hate at young age

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

There are not any good and sound reasons to think that anyone is going to heaven or hell. All the reasons for religious beliefs are flawed - logically fallacious, bad arguments or religious Faith that is only wish thinking. That Faith lets people easily believe what they want to be true and they can't care that those beliefs conflict with reality and other Faith beliefs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

This was at a church sir. This post isn’t a debate about faith.

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u/Superblond Sep 25 '22

Now it is, sir.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

And now the post has lost its good intended nature.

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22

Do religious people use Faith to think homosexuality is wrong?

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u/doomsday3131 Sep 25 '22

Some do but most don’t

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

I would posit the ones who do are being more consistent to what their holy books say and they take their religions more seriously and that it is much harder to use their holy books to support moderation.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/views-about-same-sex-marriage/by/sources-of-guidance-on-right-and-wrong/

Views about same-sex marriage - Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

They usually use the Bible-the word of God and its interpretation.

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22

Do religious people use Faith to think that a god exists and that their holy book is from a god?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

We get it Dan, you don’t believe in God, but the post isn’t about your beliefs. It’s about the topic of homosexuality in a church setting. Are you also going to sit in just to yell out mid lecture you think God is bullshit, cause if you are you’re just seeking attention.

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22

This is Reddit, not a church.

All religious Faith is intellectual dishonesty made into an elite virtue.

The moderates act as protection for the people more devout/ serious and honest about their fundamentalist religions who do harm others. They also endorse religious Faith as good.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/views-about-same-sex-marriage/by/sources-of-guidance-on-right-and-wrong/

Views about same-sex marriage - Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Stop trying to sell me atheism!

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22

Do you care if what you believe is true in reality? Do you care about holding beliefs that are immoral?

I care too much about holding only true and demonstrable beliefs as much as is reasonable and I care that others who I'm forced to share this planet with do as well.

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u/LeMans1217 Sep 25 '22

Heaven? Hell? Wonderland? Big Rock Candy Mountain? Fantasy Island?

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u/WimpyZombie Sep 25 '22

Don't forget Over the Rainbow

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u/SugarMommy_Heather Sep 25 '22

What church is this im moving rn

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u/SithDraven Sep 25 '22

If you think your God preaches hatred and discrimination, then ya might have interpreted his little book wrong and need to take a long look in the mirror.

Also, the infamous anti-gay sentence they love to trot out was never in the Bible until it was added in the 1940s.

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u/bitee1 Sep 25 '22

What the books say could be wrong.

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u/sagmag Sep 25 '22

Listen, it's not that I disagree (or agree, actually, as I don't believe in God heaven or hell) but this is a bad argument.

Heterosexuals don't go to heaven because they are heterosexual. They go to heaven if they don't commit sin.

Homosexuals, in these people's eyes, are just heterosexuals who have committed the sin of homosexual acts.

It's a stupid belief, as it literally denies the known fact that someone can be Homosexual, but stupid, easily disproven facts about reality never stopped an intolerant Christian from anything before so...

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u/mfiirk Sep 25 '22

This isn’t accurate to basic Christianity.

Here’s the problem with Christians (side note, I am one):

Either Jesus is enough or He is not.

If you need Jesus + heterosexuality, you’re doing it wrong. Cause if he’s not enough, he’s nothing.

This goes for anything you’d like to insert after the +.

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u/R4iNAg4In Sep 25 '22

It is true that heterosexual aren't going to heaven because they are heterosexual, but homosexuals are going to hell because they are homosexual. That's in the Bible and that flock needs a new shepherd, the one they have is leading them to a cliff.

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u/BlitzerBlitz88 Sep 25 '22

The part "Men shall not lie with men" is a mistranslation. It's supposed to be "Men shall not lie with boys" and wouldn't you know; Pedophilia is rampant amongst preachers. You think those are going to heaven?

Do you think God makes mistakes? How do you know God didn't deliberately create homosexual people? Homosexuality has been observed in many animal species too, so it can't be a mistake by God, right? Who are you to say, no, know that God didn't deliberately create more than one sexuality?