r/nba • u/curryybacon NBA • Sep 22 '22
[Wojnarowski] Boston Celtics coach Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire 2022-2023 season for his role in a consensual relationship with a female staff member, sources tell ESPN. A formal announcement is expected as soon as today. News
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u/VanDenIzzle Pelicans Sep 22 '22
Ever lose a championship, your wife, and your job all in one summer?
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u/Iohet Clippers Sep 22 '22
It's like near the end of Training Day when it all comes crashing down at once
I'm winning anyway, I'm winning... I'm winning any motherfucking way. I can't lose.
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u/whatanidiot70 Kings Sep 22 '22
You motherfuckers will be playing basketball in Pelican Bay when I get finished with you!!
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u/mcast86 Sep 22 '22
Life comes at you fast. Damn that was Nia Long too
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u/BigPorch Sep 22 '22
Wait wait he was married to Nia Long??? Holy shit my man done fucked up
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u/TheSmokedSalmon420 Cavaliers Sep 22 '22
From Finals appearance to suspended an entire season. That is pretty wild.
Horny jail basketball team has a head coach!
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u/Traditional_Cycle_49 Sep 22 '22
Doc rivers is an assistant i guess
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u/sleepy416 Raptors Sep 22 '22
Someone call up Draymond
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u/GoldenJet01 NBA Sep 22 '22
And Jamal Murray
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u/Traditional_Cycle_49 Sep 22 '22
if it was all time Wilt would be on the team
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u/SlapsLikeFlea13 Magic Sep 22 '22
he'd be the captain of that team
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u/Practical_Use_1654 Sep 22 '22
Magic Johnson begs to differ. Wilt was stat padding, magic had a league wide impact.
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u/Downunderphilosopher 76ers Sep 22 '22
Wilt has all the unbreakable records and legendary accomplishments though. He was pretty good on the court too.
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u/AlMundialPat Rockets Sep 22 '22
Captain has to be Danuel House, he got kicked out of the bubble cuz he couldnt keep his dick in his pants.
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u/genesis1v9 Raptors Sep 22 '22
Mark Jackson put in his resume to become assistant coach of that team.
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u/ReallyColdMonkeys Lakers Sep 22 '22
Unfortunately he was passed over and will be the broadcaster for the 10th year in a row
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u/SloGeorge Sep 22 '22
Who's the starting 5? Harden, Danuel House, who else?
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u/shrinkwrappedzebra Knicks Sep 22 '22
Lou Williams has to be on there for his love of wings
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u/SrJeromaeee Gran Destino Sep 22 '22
Lou will cool as hell for having 2 birds at once surely he can play 2 positions in this lineup.
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u/Mjacking Clippers Sep 22 '22
They even have a gm in Gersson Rosas!
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Sep 22 '22
Robert Sarver is selling the Suns, just so he can purchase the Horny Jail Basketball franchise
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u/DragonEevee1 Knicks Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
Horny jail for you sir
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u/YoYoMoMa Sep 22 '22
Celts announce suspension: "Bonk"
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u/xbyo :sp8-1: Super 8 Sep 22 '22
BOSTON, MA. (September 22, 2022) — The following statement was released today by the Boston Celtics, through their general manager Brad Stevens, in response to questions about their future coaching plans:
"I bonk."
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u/DeBallZach- [CHI] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 22 '22
Doc Rivers just breathed a sigh of relief somewhere
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u/KyrieWetUpCurry_ Lakers Sep 22 '22
Craziest rise and fall of a coach, although it’s just a year.
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u/DeBallZach- [CHI] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 22 '22
Bro speedran
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u/NoseBlind2 Raptors Sep 22 '22
He be like "hey everyone im Ime Udoka and im gonna do the Bill Clinton challenge. Don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe!"
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u/Brovenkar Celtics Sep 22 '22
He should probably take a break from smashing for a minute.
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u/Sleeze_ Celtics Sep 22 '22
Whoever Like Button is I hope she doesn't work for the team
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u/Dr_Robert_California Celtics Sep 22 '22
He's like the dude in a summoning salt video who show's up 11 years into the history with a new strat no one's heard of that slashes the record.
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u/estuhbawn Magic Sep 22 '22
“A record that seemed it would never be broken….. until September 22nd, 2022 when a speed runner by the name of ‘Ime_UdokaX’ was able to pull off this run”
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u/VanDenIzzle Pelicans Sep 22 '22
Has a coach ever been suspended a year this early into their career? In the NFL Sean Payton was suspended a year but at that point he was still their best option as a coach. But I can't see him being on a long leash after this. This was supposed to be a championship year
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u/tunamelts2 New Jersey Nets Sep 22 '22
The whole bounty gate was incredibly fucked up. Sean Payton should’ve been banned for allowing shenanigans like that, regardless of how big a role he played in that.
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u/keepp Warriors Sep 22 '22
that's how we know it wasn't super uncommon right?
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u/SmokePenisEveryday Cavaliers Sep 22 '22
It was basically confirmed that they weren't the only team in the league doing it but the only one caught at the time. Most agree that Payton and Greg Williams weren't fully kicked out for that reason.
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u/Canium Cavaliers Sep 22 '22
Is that the guy who trafficked the cheerleader to foreign clients?
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u/iSleepUpsideDown East Sep 22 '22
Post nut gotta hurt
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u/HafWoods Mavericks Sep 22 '22
I just hope he held it a few times and got something out of it.
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u/sscfc91 Sep 22 '22
The worst part of this punishment is he now has to stay home with his wife for an entire year who’s mad at him for cheating in her
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u/SteamCleaner23 Warriors Sep 22 '22
Ime’s household, approximately mid November:
Ime: “Hey honey, what do you think, should we get the Christmas tree up early?”
Wife: “oh you mean like how you were putting up Christmas trees with that BITCH?!”
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u/Orphanpuncher0 Sep 22 '22
When I was told Ime Udoka's D was going to effect the team this isn't what I had in mind.
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u/guess-what-babe Grizzlies Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 24 '22
Same amount of time as Robert Sarver is crazy
Edit: I get what happened now fuck this guy
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u/ADartfordPark Celtics Sep 22 '22
When you put it like that but we may as well sack him if we’re suspending him for a year
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u/ILikeBeans86 Bulls Sep 22 '22
SAS just went on a big rant about this. People love to shit on him but I kind of agreed with him for the most part. Basically if this werent the head coach of the celtics who just went to the NBA finals hed be fired and nobody would have heard about it. Either fire him or don't do anything. This is clearly for optics because the details will probably come out either way so the celtics need to act like they are doing something instead of not doing anything even though he broke org rules.
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u/Dr_Robert_California Celtics Sep 22 '22
Yeah, Celtics should have gone with the Red Sox approach. Fire the coach for a year while he's suspended for awful violations, then just re-hire him a year later when he's sorry. It's been working out great. Genius strategy.
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u/International-Elk986 Sep 22 '22
They can't do that approach because 2023 is not an election year so they can't use the election news dump strategy which is what the Red Sox did with Cora.
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u/MidMotoMan Sep 22 '22
They both involved some sort of cheating so it checks out.
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u/MartinVan_Nostrand Celtics Sep 22 '22
My dumb ass was thinking.. damn I remember the Cora/red Sox cheating thing, but when were the Celtics accused of cheating?!?
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u/initialsori Wizards Sep 22 '22
this is the celtics punishment not the from NBA
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u/MK12594 Bucks Sep 22 '22
Yes, and it puts the NBA's punishment in a new perspective.
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u/NevermoreSEA [POR] Brandon Roy Sep 22 '22
Was it worth it, Ime?
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u/MaLu388 Lakers Sep 22 '22
If it was Jaylen or Jayson then fa sho
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u/Sane_Fish 76ers Sep 22 '22
Please let it be a player lmao
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u/AashyLarry [MIA] Dwyane Wade Sep 22 '22
Depends which staff member. The sleuths can’t figure out which one it is.
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u/Barbell_Flyes Sep 22 '22
ADOS twitter and Dr. Umar gon be wildin if it was the white chick
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Sep 22 '22
That’s literally all I’m waiting for 😂😂
If it’s a white girl, it’s over
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Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
daughter of an SVP and former assistant of Brad. Wondering if Ime played a role in her promotion and that’s why this is messy
edit: oh shit i guess it was her HUSBAND who is the SVP and he is the one who reported it to the celtics ☠️☠️
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u/cocoacowstout Warriors Sep 22 '22
I mean if her dad is a senior VP she doesn’t really need that much help imo, that’s like 99% of the hurdle right there
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u/AdmiralWackbar Celtics Sep 22 '22
I wonder if it was a dancer, cause I’ve been ready to risk it all for Mazie for like 6 years now
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u/sleepy416 Raptors Sep 22 '22
My child, you know your teams dancers by name?! You going straight to horny jail
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u/AdmiralWackbar Celtics Sep 22 '22
I met her once at a fundraiser and I fell in love, don’t tell my wife
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u/Zavehi Celtics Sep 22 '22
Weirdly (and sadly) enough, she just left the team a few weeks ago.
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u/breaditbans Heat Sep 22 '22
Now I have to go to Celtics.com
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u/Nickleeee Trail Blazers Sep 22 '22
Seriously I’m at work like “None of the blazers dancers have ever had me questioning my relationship.. who is this woman?”
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u/NorthernSlyGuy Sep 22 '22
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of places and I tell you people do that all the time."
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u/BlazeBloom [POR] Eric Maynor Sep 22 '22
Shouldn’t they just fire him if it’s this serious then?
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u/lishmh33 Sep 22 '22
Fire him = pay him Pressure him to resign = priceless
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u/newnewyorker03 Sep 22 '22
They can likely fire him for cause without paying him. There’s outs in situations like this. This is a weak half measure. Either fire him or he should quit
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u/DrunkRyenRussillo Sep 22 '22
I can already tell This is gonna be a turning point in hip-hop lyrics
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Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
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u/thorhyphenaxe Trail Blazers Sep 22 '22
Nah, he’s the Princess in this scenario
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u/Snoyarc Sep 22 '22
The truth doesn’t matter. It’s all about perception. Who will Wed him now?
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u/lopea182 Heat Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
At that point, you may as well fire the coach.
What’s the likelihood someone tries to poach him while on suspension? Hell, there are teams in the same division (Philly, Brooklyn) that would kill to have him replace their current coaches.
Edit: contract reasons. don’t have to pay him if he resigns voluntarily. Guess the Celtics don’t believe the partnership is worth salvaging. Thanks, u/junkit33 and u/bigbadbuck
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u/Jewards Lakers Sep 22 '22
Alex Cora and Sean Payton made it back from year long suspensions. Different sports and situations but it's definitely doable.
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u/dismissivewankmotion Sep 22 '22
Alex Cora
That's what this reminds me of. He's so well liked people will welcome him back.
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u/Kyler1313 Sep 22 '22
Super close comparison. Both Minority coaches beloved by their team and very respected around their league. Both are fairly young and former players. And Both got caught in controversy early in their career (Astros cheating scandal, affair). I could totally see Ime coming back after a year and after a few months of questioning from media, just get back to being a well respected good coach.
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u/YoYoMoMa Sep 22 '22
He will still be under contract perhaps?
But yes, the real question is, what is so out of bounds that requires a YEAR suspension but does not warrant a firing?
And having the team play a full season under and interim is playing with fire.
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u/spitz1674 Nets Sep 22 '22
It’s basically what the Red Sox did with Cora. Most people assumed he’d be back. Totally different issues but it’s a decent parallel considering they’re both Boston. Only problem here is the Celtics have high aspirations. Red Sox weren’t expected to be that good that year (also Covid shortened but they didn’t know that when Cora left).
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u/junkit33 Sep 22 '22
This is basically forcing him to resign without giving him the permanent stink of a firing. Even if he returns in a year he's totally lost face in that organization, so he would probably rather just bow out gracefully and seek a fresh start elsewhere in a year.
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u/KitchenReno4512 Kings Sep 22 '22
They’re also expected to contend next year. This isn’t a result or throwaway season. Whoever they bring in as coach can’t be seen as temporary by the players.
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Sep 22 '22
If having Shams spray the Internet with IME UDOKA WAS BANGING A SIDEPIECE AT WORK is "bowing out gracefully," I'd hate to see the alternative.
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u/Spyk124 Knicks Sep 22 '22
A lot of people don’t understand if you’re at the top of any organization, business or corporation, there are very very stringent rules regarding dating in the work place. Usually they can not work anywhere near your department, you have to disclose the relationship to HR, and it couldn’t have started while they were working under you. This is to limit exploitation and favoritism. The rules make sense, he’s a dumbass for breaking them.
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u/Character_Reward2734 Warriors Sep 22 '22
There are literally thousand of women he could cheat with and have not issues and probably < 20 he could with serious issues. He chose poorly. No sympathy- and he’s lucky he didn’t get fired.
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u/BaeylnBrown777 [BOS] Jaylen Brown Sep 22 '22
There's a great Dave Chappelle bit about how Bill Clinton cheated like a busy man cheats - stuck his head out the office door and grabbed the first woman he saw lmao.
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u/HorseMeatKhabib Hawks Sep 22 '22
Nephews saying this punishment is too severe, but punishments like this prevent situations like the Mavericks had for twenty years. The power dynamics of consent are real.
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u/billcosbyinspace Celtics Sep 22 '22
Exactly, you can’t have sex with people when you’re their boss, period. Even if he had an affair with someone in like accounting it would still be a slippery slope because ime has a ton of power and pull in the organization
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u/jdd32 Spurs Sep 22 '22
That is a great comparison. These rules exist for a reason. If I had a relationship with one of my employees, you're sure as shit that I'd be fired.
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u/hooskies Knicks Sep 22 '22
What the fuck am I missing here
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u/pdpdpdpdpdpdpdpd Raptors Sep 22 '22
It's a violation of a clause in the Celtics' code of conduct, so they set how severe the punishment is in this case
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Sep 22 '22
this feels to me like getting kicked off the byu football team for having premarital sex
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u/boomedhim1234 Sep 22 '22
Brandon Davies sends his regards
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u/Talldarkandhansolo Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
I feel bad that Davies became a meme. He was a super nice guy and a hell of a player. I was pushed by another teammate that was bullying me and Davies stepped in between us and shoved him back and told him to fuck with him instead if he wanted to be a big dog. Mad respect to Davies.
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u/jdd32 Spurs Sep 22 '22
It's got nothing to do with him cheating on his wife though. You can't be the boss and go sleeping with people that work for you. It's code of conduct for any respectable company. You can't put subordinates in that position where they might feel pressured to consent for fear of retaliation, or to advance their careers. Likewise, you might create the notion with other employees that they are getting passed over for opportunities because someone else is sleeping with the boss. You just can't have that in a healthy organization.
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u/thorvard Wizards Sep 22 '22
Exactly this. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand.
In, almost, any other job he'd be fired and sent on his way.
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u/likwitsnake Lakers Sep 22 '22
Soaking is ok though
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u/PeanutButtaRari Warriors Sep 22 '22
Gotta make sure you got a homie to jump for you
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u/heyeaglefn 76ers Sep 22 '22
Without knowing the details it is hard to say. What if they were having relations at the office? Many people would get fired instantly for doing that.
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u/mattyg5 Wizards Sep 22 '22
Having relations with a subordinate is a fireable offense in pretty much every company.
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u/SirMrGnome Bucks Sep 22 '22
Hell, Katie Hill was forced out of Congress for doing it.
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u/materics [MEM] Shane Battier Sep 22 '22
Nude photos of Hill were published by the Daily Mail, a British tabloid. Hill called the release of the photos an invasion of privacy and vowed to advocate for victims of revenge porn. She resigned on November 3, 2019; her last day on the floor was two days earlier.
In June 2021, Hill was ordered to pay $220,000 to the Daily Mail and other media, to reimburse the legal fees these companies spent defending themselves against her accusations. In July 2022, Hill declared bankruptcy.
Damn life hits you fast
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u/jpaxlux [BOS] Jayson Tatum Sep 22 '22
Ime fucked a woman who's in a much lesser position than himself which is bad.
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u/Mem-Boi-901 Grizzlies Sep 22 '22
Yeah that type of relationship in the work office is a HUGE no no.
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u/DragonEevee1 Knicks Sep 22 '22
It's really really unethical, like fireable offense for a ton of jobs
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u/NicClaxtonIsHotAF Nets Sep 22 '22
Feel like this is going to be a domino to this team collapsing. You might as well fire him
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u/Antenol Sep 22 '22
Brad Stevens about to be the president and the coach of the Celtics
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u/PepperidgeFarmMembas Sep 22 '22
Everyone wondering why a year……
He literally slept with a female subordinate. Any other industry that’s instant suspension pending termination while HR sorts out the mess. The power dynamic is a mess and the Celtics are doing the right thing here. There’s definitely more to the story too.
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u/Vswerve27 Wizards Sep 22 '22
Why do people on Reddit/Twitter not understand that you can’t have a relationship with someone that works for you? He should be fired.
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u/DragonEevee1 Knicks Sep 22 '22
Because most people on Reddit don't have people under them
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u/completelytrustworth Raptors Sep 22 '22
Don't have people under them in both senses of the word
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u/Littlebelo Cavaliers Sep 22 '22
Considering how many teenagers are on this sub I’m guessing most of the sub don’t have jobs
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u/callofthevoid_ 76ers Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
because 90% are young guys yet to enter a corporate environment and those who have DEFINITELY don’t have people working under them.
he’s lucky they are giving him the dignity of eventually resigning vs. firing him outright.
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u/Cmbotts Sep 22 '22
As someone who does work in corporate and has people working under them— it’s basically rule #1 that you don’t fuck your employees. Even if it’s consensual it can be extremely problematic.
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u/AngriestBeaver Spurs Sep 22 '22
I married my boss. We've been happily married for years and have 2 kids. I'm really glad she didn't get fired. Granted, Udoka's situation isn't a 1:1 because I think Udoka was cheating on his spouse if I got the story right, but part of the reason people "don't understand" is because a lot of people meet their spouse or longterm partners at work. That's also not to say a boss in a position of power can't be a creep trying to leverage a relationship.
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u/stoppedcaring0 Jazz Sep 22 '22
This is a “we want you out of the job, but we’re not going to fire you for financial/legal reasons, so we’re going to dare you to quit” situation.
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u/xbarracuda95 Sep 22 '22
Lol people really pretending that a boss having a sexual relationship with a subordinate is fine if she consents?
It's a fireable offense in most companies, a normal executive wouldn't even get off with only a suspension if he's caught having sex with a junior employee.
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u/elibretto123 San Diego Clippers Sep 22 '22
If the celtics win it all this year does he get a ring still or nah
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u/Balls_of_Adamanthium Warriors Sep 22 '22
Gotta be more to the story than meets the eye
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u/jpaxlux [BOS] Jayson Tatum Sep 22 '22
He unfortunately did not live up to Los Pollos standards
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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi NBA Sep 22 '22
Boss, why are you putting on that waterproof, stain-proof gear to cut up some boxes……
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u/monkey-pox Mavericks Sep 22 '22
If you have power in a company, you can't fuck employees, it's just a huge liability
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u/jackalope503 Trail Blazers Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
Ime was really living my middle-school dream of working in the NBA and being married to Nia Long, and he fucked it all up smh
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u/DragonEevee1 Knicks Sep 22 '22
Consent must be a mess in this situation due to power dynamic
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u/The-Implication-0 Bulls Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
Yeah I don’t really get how people don’t get this. Sex between a boss and a subordinate is messy. Can lead to issues with power dynamic, the concept of consent, lawsuits down the road, etc.
It’s not uncommon to get fired for that, not just suspended. Sex between low level employees on the same level isn’t as big a deal.
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u/Shenanigans80h Nuggets Sep 22 '22
Yeah the immaturity of this sub is kinda showing with this one. It’s common as hell in any workplace with a clearly structured hierarchy that relationships between bosses and subordinates will result in termination or a big punishment. I see a lot of people here trying to frame it as whoever he slept with being some big name or having a connection to a big name but it’s far more likely it’s a lower level no name frankly
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u/enjoyeverysangwich Sep 22 '22
The man had a relationship with an employee. He's the head coach. Power imbalance. And if it wasn't reported? Violation of most workplace codes of conduct. And it was extramarital? Creates negative perception about the man and the event. Not to mention the PR crisis the team will face, how many times will we ever be able to bring up Udoka on social media, ever again, without someone chiming in about this affair, in a crude way most likely? I feel like a year long suspension really shows that the organization takes this seriously, it gives Udoka the time he will need to deal with his certain personal issues that stem from this. It gives the locker room time to move past it and ensure their trust in their coach (though I feel most of the players wouldn't really have cared that much). A year is heavy, but the team is serious about it and he's probably lucky not to have been fired.
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u/mansmurf Raptors Sep 22 '22
Off-season went 0-100 real quick