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Zelenskyy calls on Russians to 'protest' and 'fight back' against Putin's draft if they 'want to survive' Russia/Ukraine

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u/Few_Advisor3536 Sep 22 '22

Germany’s supply lines were cut and the winter in russia was harsh. Soviet troops also suffered in the winter during ww2. They werent immune to the cold. Sub zero temperatures dont pick sides. The russians are going to struggle as an invader but ive been worrying about the winter for ukranians since the war began. Without proper shelter their people will also suffer especially the old.

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u/Dense-Nectarine2280 Sep 22 '22

Germany was stretched out and didn't get resupplied. The Luftwaffe was supposed to resupply the army, but Hitlers head at that time was too far up his own ass, and refused to listen to his generals.

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u/kreschatka Sep 23 '22

Stalingrad/Volgograd is almost 3000 km from Berlin. That’s a long supply line especially in 1940s. Ukraine is on its own turf. And if they can get ATACMS. They can wreck the supply lines.

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u/Dense-Nectarine2280 Sep 23 '22

The germans did so much wrong in the Russian campaign.

They allready had Poland and most of Ukrain, they could go for Moscow, but chose stalingrad instead, out of spite I think. Hitler hated Stalin. The problem was, when that plan didn't work, Hitler just abandonded the whole campaign, and made sure noone in germany found out.

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u/kreschatka Sep 23 '22

Plus the Germans were fighting on two fronts.

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u/Dense-Nectarine2280 Sep 23 '22

True. A bad move. They also failed in securing the oil fields of Azerbaijan. So they also went out of fuel

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u/Kaymish_ Sep 23 '22

They really needed the oilfields in the caucuses; it would have been a double blow. Reducing the fuel available to the Soviets and giving the Germans a fuel injection they desperately needed.

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u/SiarX Sep 23 '22

They went for Moscow in 1941, in did not work. They went for Stalingrad in 1942 because it was critically important for succesful Baku (i.e. capturing oil fields) campaign and cutting off water supply through Volga.

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u/ukchinouk Sep 23 '22

Head too far up his ass to listen? That sounds kinda familiar…

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u/CyberMindGrrl Sep 23 '22

Craniarectal Syndrome is a common disease for dictators.

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u/Dense-Nectarine2280 Sep 23 '22

Yeah, megalomaniacs tend to exercise the same behaviour at some point

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u/6501 Sep 23 '22

The Luftwaffe also told Hitler they could supply the army when they couldn't, probably because they were scared that saying no would lead to them being shot or something.

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u/nashedPotato4 Sep 23 '22

The fact that Putin has people of influence speaking out against him now tells you how crazy shit has gotten.

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u/Dense-Nectarine2280 Sep 23 '22

This could go to crazytown on the crazytrain

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/Dense-Nectarine2280 Sep 23 '22

Nice summary friend. Apreciate the effort :) Would give you a coin, but don't have any atm

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u/BadMcSad Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Thing is, if every single combatant soldier on both sides throughout the entirety of Russia had died to hypothermia, that'd still mean a failed invasion for the Nazi's. I'd argue nature usually picks the defenders' side if it decides to participate. It's just kinda stupid and doesn't really pay attention when you're asking it to stop killing friendlies.

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u/WizardGoo Sep 23 '22

I was wondering about this the other day. Does nothing exist that can keep soldiers warm in the winter?

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u/nashedPotato4 Sep 23 '22

Saying at home in front of the fire and not invading other countries.

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u/Gwtheyrn Sep 23 '22

As far as the soldiers go, the allies are getting sub-zero gear ready to ship over. They know what the Ukrainians need.

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u/WizardGoo Sep 23 '22

I was wondering about this the other day. Does nothing exist that can keep soldiers warm enough in the winter?

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u/nashedPotato4 Sep 23 '22

(see above)

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u/NoPattern1 Sep 23 '22

NATO announced last month that they were outfitting Ukraine with cold weather gear. NATO countries constantly do cold weather training so their stuff is well tested and works. Ukrainian soldiers should be nice and toast when they step over the orcsicles.