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Zelenskyy calls on Russians to 'protest' and 'fight back' against Putin's draft if they 'want to survive' Russia/Ukraine

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u/Boxy310 Sep 23 '22

Oh, agreed. In modern combat though I would want something I could shoot more than 10 times without my shoulder turning to jelly, though.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone Sep 23 '22

they have that reputation but the limited time i spent with one i was surprised it was very easy to shoot. probably helps that it's heavy. i thought the trigger was surprisingly crisp too.. wonder if someone had modded it.

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u/ses1989 Sep 23 '22

Sounds like you have the full size. I have a full size and carbine, and that carbine will rip your fucking shoulder off worse than hot loaded buckshot, and a muzzle blast to match. Trigger has a long travel time, but it breaks very clean once you get it down. Only issue is how hard they are to cycle unless you maybe had the curved bolt.

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u/GeneralJawbreaker Sep 23 '22

My 91/30 cycles like a dream with brass, but the moment I feed it steel i need a damn mallet to get the bolt open.

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u/ses1989 Sep 23 '22

Maybe that's the problem. I've never run anything other than steel out of it.

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u/gnat_outta_hell Sep 23 '22

The curved bolt was a sniper configuration. If you were running the gun as intended, you would have a small scope in the way making it harder to cycle anyways.

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u/itchynipz Sep 23 '22

Same with G-98’s vs G-98K’s. Oof. Much better in the shoulder then the Mosin’s, but even so I’d much rather shoot the long version. The Germans went to war with a hunting rifle(Mauser). The Americans brought a target rifle (Springfield ’03). The Brit’s brought a rifle for war (Lee-Enfield). The Russians…brought something altogether different.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone Sep 23 '22

Yeah haven’t tried a carbine. Sounds fun!

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u/Stinkyclamjuice15 Sep 23 '22

The carbine kicks bad lol

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u/149Murphy Sep 23 '22

I had the same experience. I suppose I was fairly warned, and I have a lot of experience with different weapons so I was expecting a mule kick. It was not so bad.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

I learned to shoot rifles on one of those when I was a child. Pretty damn accurate, wasn’t too bad on the shoulder, put a scope on it and hit things pretty damn far away and groupings were good.

Though since then I’ve shot a lot more high power rounds and more expensive rifles…still has a place in my heart and I look forward to teaching my son with the same rifle when it becomes more age appropriate.

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u/Collins_Michael Sep 23 '22

The battle rifle is decent to handle, but the carbine configuration pulped me.

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u/hamburders Sep 23 '22

By chance are you a bigger person? I’m 6’3” 220lbs and can throw 100 12ga slugs down range and only feel a tingle in my shoulder at that point. The mosin I have fired felt pretty similar to my .270win which has a decent kick, I just absorb it better than my friends.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone Sep 23 '22

Not as big as you, but I felt like a 12 gauge with slugs kicks far worse.

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u/hamburders Sep 23 '22

I suppose it does. The bolt action I think kinda forces a reset on my shoulder more than pump-action or semi, but that’s probably a me issue.

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u/R_M_R_0 Sep 23 '22

everyone here is making the BOLD assumption these hundred+ year old rifles have been serviced since they entered service

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u/GeneralJawbreaker Sep 23 '22

They're stored in cosmoline, so if they were in good shape before going into storage, they're in good shape now. My garbage rod just needed a deep clean to get rid of the cosmoline and can practically hit a quarter at 100 yards. They're definitely not what I'd want in a modern war, but they aren't gonna blow up in your face or have the spread of a shotgun just because they're old

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u/drunkenknight9 Sep 23 '22

The kick is nowhere near as bad as a lot of other bolt action rifles from the time. I have plenty of issues with the Mosin but recoil is not one of them. The carbine sized ones on the other hand...

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u/MadWhiskeyGrin Sep 23 '22

Sometimes you just really need to put a fist sized hole in someone while setting their clothes on fire

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u/MightyPenguin Sep 23 '22

They are heavy guns honestly(more weight means less harsh recoil as the extra mass absorbs it), they dont hurt your shoulder at all. I can fire one for 100 rounds straight and doesnt make my shoulder sore. putting a scope on one would make it a decent long range weapon and they still could be effective.