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Zelenskyy calls on Russians to 'protest' and 'fight back' against Putin's draft if they 'want to survive' Russia/Ukraine

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u/ZedTT Sep 22 '22

Oh yeah let's just put all the people who tried to kill the monarch in one place and tax them without representation they won't revolt or anything

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u/Unions4America Sep 22 '22

What do you mean? Sounds brilliant to me. Just like when Hitler logically came to the conclusion 'The only way to feed the German people long-term is to invade the East' rather than 'We can just be peaceful and trade for food with foreign nations.' Fool proof plan, if you ask me.

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u/DefiantLemur Sep 23 '22

I'm glad he's a idiot. The world would have been worse off if he stopped after taking Poland, Austria, Rhinelands and Czechoslovakia and consolidated his power into a dystopic hell in Central Europe.

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u/hi_me_here Sep 23 '22

it would've collapsed within a decade, max, no matter what. the Nazis had No long term economic plans and the German economy as it was under his rule could only function on aggressive military expansion because they didn't actually have the ability to pay for all the checks they were writing, and they wouldn't be able to maintain any international trade due to either bankruptcy or warfare blockades or both. All of their spending was military focused, that shit isn't useful if you're not using it, nobody's buying it and you can't afford to keep it running yourself. It can't project power overseas because the German Navy was miniscule and had no hope of contesting Britain's seapower well enough to attempt any kind of invasion of the UK, especially with the USSR waiting in the east for a moment of weakness. without taking out the UK, they're stuck on dry land, forever, no matter what, and, again, running out of gas

the Nazis were utterly dependent on conquering, robbing and enslaving everyone and everything in reach to keep the gears turning - the only way he could've swung that around is by taking the oil fields down in the caucasus, which meant invading Russia, which wasn't winnable and would only become less winnable as time went on

Without taking the oil fields, they run out of oil for heavy industry and fuel and collapse. If he didn't invade the ussr, even if the US never entered the war, the ussr would have invaded Germany by 1944 at the very latest, earlier if France was still intact. If he invades France, now he's got the entire Atlantic Coast of Europe to secure, useless for trade because of the royal navy blockading him indefinitely, with ever dwindling fuel and resources to run his war machine. if the war machine stops running, Nazi Germany stops existing, either due to internal collapse or external invasion or both

it was just a bad plan all around - don't invade